What engine used for V50 2.0 Diesel? Possible buy of V50!

[GazT4]

Ive seen a '55' plate V50 2.0 Diesel sport i like the look of. What im wondering is, what engine is it that Volvo have used? I know they use Renault engines in my current V40 Diesel and they use Ford diesels for the 1600s?

Whatever they are, are they good, reliable, good on fuel etc? Manage plenty miles as a Volvo should?

Thanks in advance! :thumbs_up:

[nbuuifx]

Ford /PSA built engine - same as focus or peugot 306 etc

OK on fuel but not great compared to others in the same class. Seem to be fairly reliable and strangely more reliable than the same engine fitted to a Ford, peugeot or citroen.

Should get a good couple of hundred thousand out of one

[GazT4]

A Peugeot HDI engine or a Ford engine?

The 2.0L HDIs were good..

[EricMe]

Really not sure whether it's manufactured by Ford or Peugeot ut pretty sure it's same as they both use.

In 50k, I've averaged 42mpg which isn't that bad but it's not a patch on the 50+ mpg I managed over 150k in my 1991 Montego 2.0 tdi estate. That of course had a Perkins diesel and I wish more manufacturers would specify their products

[Daim]

Depends on where it was made. There is one plant for Ford and Volvo (not PSA!) and one only for Volvo (Skövde Sweden). Anyway you look at it, it is built for Volvo and they are rather good engines.

[Bendolfc]

It is a HDI engine and Ford use the same engine. Would probably have been put together either by volvo or Ford.

[GazT4]

The one ive seen is a 55 plate with 150k miles, full volvo service history and just had the timing belt done. Good condition- £3500. Seems a lot of car for that money as long as the engines can handle the mileage- thats why i ask what the engine is. I know the 1600 HDIs Peugeot done were horrific for turbos, DPF problems and god knows what else.

I currently have a V40 Diesel i bought for 1000mile round trips to the British Grand Prix, so i need something reliable!

[Unreal master tech]

Hi folks this engine was developed by pug/citreon/ ford as the man said PSA .
The engines are strong and whilst they suffer from silly issues they don't have the problems of the 1.6 engine which as mentioned are true. But having said that I would not want a high mileage one or an early one as these cars did have issues when first launched with silly things like egr and so on if you can stretch your budget to get a good one it will be worth it in the longer term.

[GazT4]

What were the issues?

To be honest its only for camping trips to motorsport events, im not needing or going to get a £6-7k car for that. I just thought at that money, providing the engines dont self destruct at that kind of mileage, it was a good sounding car. Especially with full service history etc.

Selling my current 2004 V40 D Sport would pay for it too. So a more luxurious, spacious, modern looking car for no extra.

Im a mechanic/ MOT tester so run of the mill repairs are fine, but i need to be able to do 1000mile trips without worrying! :)

[Unreal master tech]

Egr was the main issue the intercoolers are soft. The throttle body's stick from time to time, injectors have been known to cause problems look at leak off pipes etc to see if any repairs have been attempted?! Wiring can rub through in various areas and cause general running issues. To be honest it sounds like am scarring you off them am not they are pretty reliable when all is said and done.

[GazT4]

Thanks for your info/advice!

EGRs are designed to be a fault on most cars i think! Ive just read about the throttle body sticking, thats ok as its not a serious problem at all, and doesnt stop the car running even if it does go faulty (pressuming your talking about the starting issue).

Does the price seem good? Car seems spot on with the only downside the mileage- but thats well reflected in the price?

Thanks again.

[Unreal master tech]

Not sure on price to be honest have you looked at others to see what they fetch? Just go on auto trader and compare them? If it's a clean one don't let mileage put you off

[nbuuifx]

It needs the cambelt doing by 150,000 miles so make sure that has been done.


Mine a 2004 new shape and is on 131,000 and was considerably less than you are looking to pay. (I purchased it from my parents!)

To give you an idea though they were offered £1500 for it against their new volvo at a main dealer. That's for a car in very good condition with full service history.

[GazT4]

Its had timing belt and water pump replaced last month. It also has full Volvo history.

Ones on Ebay are £4500 upwards, even with 126k miles.

That makes it sound good enough.

Trade in is a rip off, thats not a good indication really.

Ive emailed about it, but had no reply.

[sprout99]

2.0 engine is PSA (french)

I didn't want the engine from the garlic munchers and opted for the better
and higher powered volvo unit - a long proven 5 pot thumper.

However - they were only made on a short run and cost more
to buy the tax is marginally more expensive aswell.

Fuel economy about the same - depending on driving style

As long as the car you're looking at has a good service history that can be interogated it should be fine

[DCN85]

2.0Based on the PSA DW10 engine[citation needed] and with a capacity of 1997 cc, this engine was developed by Peugeot engineers in France on behalf of both PSA and Ford Motor Company.[citation needed] Production is currently taking place in France and Skövde in Sweden[citation needed]. The engine was released to Ford models in 2005 Ford Focus, and followed in the 2007 Mk IV Mondeo. It features a 16-valve cylinder head with twin belt driven camshafts and utilises a variable geometry turbocharger with overboost function. An intercooler is always present, as opposed to some applications of its predecessor.

In the 2005 Focus, output is a respectable 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW). In the 2007 Mondeo it is offered with 130 PS (128 hp/96 kW) or 140 PS (138 hp/103 kW), mated to a manual or 6-speed Durashift automatic gearbox. In early 2010 this 2.0 unit was updated. So in the Mondeo it now produces 138 bhp (103 kW) with 302 nm of torque and 163 bhp (120 kW) with 340Nm of torque.

Applications:

2003–present Ford Focus C-Max 2.0 TDCi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2005–present Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2006–present Ford S-Max 2.0 TDCi, 130 PS (128 hp/96 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2006–present Ford S-Max 2.0 TDCi, 140 PS (138 hp/103 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2006–present Ford Galaxy 2.0 TDCi, 130 PS (128 hp/96 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2006–present Ford Galaxy 2.0 TDCi, 140 PS (138 hp/103 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2007–present Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, 140 PS (138 hp/103 kW) and 248 ft·lbf (320 N·m)
2007–present Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, 160 PS (163 hp/120 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2008–present Ford Kuga 2.0 TDCi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
Other Applications:

2004–2007 Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2005–present Peugeot 407 2.0 HDi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2005–present Peugeot 607 2.0 HDi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2006–present Peugeot 807 2.0 HDi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2008–present Peugeot 308 2.0 HDi, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2004–2010 Volvo C30/S40/V50 2.0 D, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m)
2007–present Volvo V70 2.0 D, 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (340 N·m) (From Wikipedia so relatively accurate I'm sure)

I have this unit and hasn't (touch wood) given me any significant bother in last 3 years. To be honest I've had more problems with the Volvo surroundings (door locks, mod to stop water dropping on alternator when it rains, creaking seats etc)! You'll hear a lot of complaints about the fact that the engine was designed by french engineers but that's a superficial and non-technical complaint in my view.

[nbuuifx]

Its had timing belt and water pump replaced last month. It also has full Volvo history.

Ones on Ebay are £4500 upwards, even with 126k miles.

That makes it sound good enough.

Trade in is a rip off, thats not a good indication really.

Ive emailed about it, but had no reply.


Ebay isn't the best indication as most are classified ads, and most don't sell. Having said that I've had a look around and you don't seem to be far off with the £4500. So if you can get it for £3500 then it seems like a great buy.

[GazT4]

Thanks for the info guys, so its the same engine as used in the TDCI Mondeos then!

They were occasionally bad for dual mass flywheels so ill have to check that if the guy ever gets back to me.

He wants £3350ovno for it, so i was hoping that if i liked it, i could get it for £3000.

[nbuuifx]

Yes same engine, from some reading that I did a while ago Ford seem to have problems with injectors and dmfs. Peugeot/Citreon had problems with all sorts including simple things like the sumps failing. Volvo with essentially the same engine seems to have very little go wrong.

There seemed to be some debate to why this was, on one hand it was suggested that Volvo owners in general service their cars better than Ford/PSA owners and that Volvo owners are more willing to spend money maintaining the car so they have more preventative maintenance performed.

On the other side it is said that Volvo build a lot of the engines themselves and where they don't build them they specify the sealants etc which are of a higher quality.

Not idea how much is true as it was what I picked up reading various sources but it appears to be true that Volvo have less engine problems than the others using the same engine.


We had an 04 plate TDCI Focus, I'm not sure if it had the exact same engine but it was one of the worst diesel cars we've owned, compared to the Volvo being one of the nicest.

[GaryEvans31]

GazT4 did you go and view this V50? If so how did you get on? I'm following your thread with interest as I might be looking for a diesel V50 towards March/April.

If the car you're looking at is as-described, even £3350 sounds a really decent price for it.

Keep us posted :thumbs_up:

Gary

[GazT4]

I spoke to him last night, i was hoping to see it at the weekend to see it in daylight for obvious reasons. Unfortunately he is away for a week as of Friday so im either going to need to try get time off work, or ill wait until next weekend.

He's said he will take £3100 for it, and i checked if it has a DPF which it doesnt. Even better! :thumbs_up:

It has 2 previous owners, but he has only had it 2 months. Said he now needs a 7 seater.

[tayandre]

but he has only had it 2 months. Said he now needs a 7 seater.

Alarm bells ringing. I think the used car speak translation is "this car needs work, better punt it on before the problem becomes too noticeable or the car undrivable".

[nbuuifx]

Alarm bells ringing. I think the used car speak translation is "this car needs work, better punt it on before the problem becomes too noticeable or the car undrivable".

Not always though, I sold my last car after 4 months of ownership. It was in great condition and I had just had it MOT'd it had a couple of advisories which I pointed out to the buyer but it should be a cracking car for a good while. My reason was that the volvo came along at a price I couldn't refuse

[GazT4]

In the last few months he has had timing belt, water pump and tyres replaced.

[GaryEvans31]

Alarm bells ringing. I think the used car speak translation is "this car needs work, better punt it on before the problem becomes too noticeable or the car undrivable".

Dear oh dear oh dear, how cynical can some people be? Maybe the seller really does need a 7-seater hence the sale of the Volvo.

Have you been to see the car yet GazT4? If so how did you get on?

Gary:thumbs_up:

[GazT4]

Hopefully i'll get away from work to see it tomorrow, if not it'll be next weekend before hes back. Im hardly desperate so im not really fussy. I could go see it tonight but i want to see it in daylight!

[kebab10]

Never a good idea to buy a car in the dark. did once, a Black Mk3 Ford Cortina 2.0GT. Went like stink when it wasnt dumping oil out of the engine and trying to set fire to itself!

[GazT4]

Been and bought it today! Very happy so far! :thumbs_up:

One thing id like to change is the grill to one of the black ones rather than the silver one which i dont like!

What cars do the black ones come on? What year of cars?

:thumbs_up:

[GaryEvans31]

Hi GazT4

How are you finding the V50? As I mentioned previously I am thinking of buying one soon, and so am looking for as much info as possible from existing owners.

Have you encountered any problems as yet?
Is there anything you're not happy with or are going to replace (apart from the grille)?
Am I correct in thinking that you purchased your V50 privately? If so how did you find the whole experience? I'm unsure about buying privately, as not enough knowledge of cars, so did you encounter any difficulties?

Any info would be very helpful.

Gary:thumbs_up:

[GazT4]

Hi GazT4

How are you finding the V50? As I mentioned previously I am thinking of buying one soon, and so am looking for as much info as possible from existing owners.

Have you encountered any problems as yet?
Is there anything you're not happy with or are going to replace (apart from the grille)?
Am I correct in thinking that you purchased your V50 privately? If so how did you find the whole experience? I'm unsure about buying privately, as not enough knowledge of cars, so did you encounter any difficulties?

Any info would be very helpful.

Gary:thumbs_up:

Hi Gary, to be honest ive only done 200miles in it, but so far so good. I like it quite a lot more than the V40 in an all-round way. Its so much more modern considering its only actually 2 years newer.

No problems as yet, but as said ive only done 200miles in it and no long journeys. Seems good on fuel too though.

As for other things to do, yes it has 2 recent advisories from MOT which are a rear anti-roll bar droplink and both front suspension wishbone rear bushes worn. These knock heavily going up a dropped kerb. Neither hard to fix or expensive. These things are basically a Ford Focus underneath- all Ford Suspension etc, which helps the price of parts.

I bought privately, and although the guy was a bit of a chancer, it wasnt too bad. I met my match for bidding on the price though and ended up having to pay asking price. Luckily that was cheap anyway.

Mine has done 150,000 miles, runs and drives like new and has full Volvo service history.

Just make sure the one you buy has been well cared for- easily seen by checking service history and condition of the car itself. I think in general they are good cars.

:thumbs_up: