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Old Mar 6th, 2016, 13:02   #11
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So what Loctite products did you use? Please quote numbers. Thanks.
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Old Mar 6th, 2016, 14:14   #12
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I believe the correct Loctite is "680" "Retaining Compound." It should be green in color and designed for a "slip fit" cylindrical application.

As mentioned, I had to use a local equivalent made in South Africa. The brand is not even worth mentioning, but it was green "retaining compound" and I tried not to care that half of the bottle had been siphoned off somewhere along the way to the store. I figure at least they didn't replace that half with water, like the several bottles of radiator coolant I bought last year to do a flush (some bottles had dark green liquid content but most were composed of a very pale yellow). The joys of living in Africa
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Old Mar 6th, 2016, 14:18   #13
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Is the post office still on strike? Past few time I sent parts to sa customers have said not to use the post office
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Old Mar 6th, 2016, 14:30   #14
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I don't believe they are still on strike, but at this point I wonder why anyone would trust a system so broken.
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Old Mar 6th, 2016, 16:46   #15
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Mav;

...I can't speak to the SA postal system, and the nice guy who was kind enough to make 50% coolant mix for you, but I can relate a story and some intersting information (I thought!) about the half full/half empty Loktite container...for a long time, I noticed a mess around the Loktite containers in their storage spot, or even on them...they were always gooey and wet, sometimes even sitting in a small puddle of the stuff...OK, sometimes one may have fallen over, so I figured the stuff had leaked out and made a mess...but it wasn't as simple as that...sometimes the mess was there even when containers hadn't fallen over...and they were still gooey and wet, since last time I cleaned them...I thought the contents might be wicking up and out of the container (generally speaking... "I don't know much, but I know water likes to run downhill" [Ron's Rule No. 1]...and as an extension of that, I would expect a liquid like a threadlocker to stay in the bottom of the container, but as a wicking liquid, who knows...maybe it indeed was capable of walking up the side of the container and pulling a Houdini...)...I needed an explanation...

...so being near Loktite's home in Connecticut, I asked my resident Loktite expert, who gave some interesting explanations...he advised me that the product, being an anaerobic mix (which works when deprived of air) must first be kept in breathable containers so that it doesn't think it has been applied, and wicked into to a joint, is now no longer exposed to the air, and does its' chemical trick and harden, locking the components...but apparently, as air is allowed INTO these specialized containers of special porous plastic, over time, this does allow some weepage of product in the other direction...OUT...so I wasn't dreaming...or drunk and disorderly (and Ron's Rule No. 1 is safe and not in need of amendments...phew!).

And to explain your situation, he also noted that their product (and apparently the SA produced version) is intentionally shipped with an unusually great volume for an unfilled airspace in the container for the same reason....so I suggest what you found was normal packaging, and there is no threadlocker thief in your postal system you need to be concerned about...just thought I'd ease your worried mind! ...and no, you won't get it at half the cost just because the container is half air!

Thanks John B. for reference info...I hope I recounted it here accurately enough!

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Maver1ck,

Knowing that this idler arm bushing will be something I'll need to be prepared to replace on my '72 164E at some point down the road, I was looking at the one you used and was extremely pleased to find your post. Seeing that you've already installed yours, I'm curious to know whether or not you needed a press to accomplish this.

I'm also wondering whether or not you had the special Volvo tool (#2849) for when you removed the old one or if you were able to do this with a generic puller, though I'm pretty sure others could chime in on that.

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Which loctite would be used.? I have never heard of a bearing loctite? Is it 658
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Clive,

In post #12, he indicates it's #680 and that it's a "Retaining Compound".
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the old bush will come out using a vice. I have spoken to the guy that makes these and will soon be stocking them
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A vice, press, and/or special tool will make this job much easier.

I still got it done in a couple hours in my driveway with a 3 pound sledge, a drift, a farmers jack (essentially acting as a vice) and some strategic positioning. That is all for getting the old bushing off. Getting the new one on was simply a matter of sliding it into place. Then it is up to the loctite to keep it together.
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