Front Brake Caliper Pad Retaining Springs

stellamon · Jul 13th, 2016, 23:25

I bought some pads for the front of my v70 t5 and asked the local garage to fit them.
They said the wrong sized discs were on the car in the first place, so they had to fit new discs and subsequently new pads also. Apparently the ones I bought were not the right size.

Anyway, a couple of months later and I've been getting brake squeal, really annoying so decided to add some copper grease to the rear of the pad.
Took the wheel off and noticed there were no brake pad retaining springs on the calipers.
Carried on and fixed the brake squeal, then called the garage and asked what had happened to my springs which I was sure were on before they did the work.
They asked me to go show them, so I did, they then said new springs were on the way, then said new springs wouldn't fit and weren't needed anyway.
They said that if they're were no springs when I took it in then they wouldn't have needed them or some ****e like that.
Then said maybe the calipers fitted weren't standard perhaps and so on and on....

Anyone know if I should have these retaining springs fitted or not and if they serve a purpose?
maybe I bought a v70 t5 which has some other calipers fitted but don't know what they are.

cheshired5 · Jul 13th, 2016, 23:37

Does the caliper look something like this?

stellamon · Jul 13th, 2016, 23:53

No, not really, looks like this:

I will get the wheel off again tomorrow for a better picture.

stellamon · Jul 14th, 2016, 10:09

These are the pictures of my front caliper with no springs :

wise old monkey · Jul 14th, 2016, 10:37

Your brakes are xc90 brakes. You will need 316mm discs. Not standard 305mm discs. From the looks of the picture the garage has fitted 305mm discs which means the pads will wear out over the top disc which over time the pads will meet together at the top over the disc. Mine was the same when i got mine. You can get the xc90 discs on ebay for £49.99 each. Also get the police spec pads for £29 delivered if they have any left.

cheshired5 · Jul 14th, 2016, 10:51

OP, you're definitely missing a spring that should look similar to this.
Stephenevans99 pic I believe.....

stellamon · Jul 14th, 2016, 10:59

Thank you for identifying the calipers for me wise old monkey.
The old pads had worn over the top of the old disc, that's why they fitted larger discs and from yesterdays inspection they seem to be the right size now, there is a 2-3mm rust line around the outer edge of the disc.
Don't the XC90 calipers require the pad retaining springs then?

stellamon · Jul 14th, 2016, 11:05

Thank you very much cheshired5, it seems I'll need another word at the garage and may be searching for a new Indy.

wise old monkey · Jul 14th, 2016, 11:12

i wouldnt go back to that garage, they seem clueless.
this braking system is really easy to do your self, you will need a 55mm short tox, a g-clamp and a 18mm socket.

cheshired5 · Jul 14th, 2016, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by wise old monkey

i wouldnt go back to that garage, they seem clueless.
this braking system is really easy to do your self, you will need a 55mm short tox, a g-clamp and a 18mm socket.

Volvo specifically tell you to not split the caliper by removing the the T55 torx bolts.
You remove the caliper pins (which need removing anyway for cleaning) and pull the caliper off the carrier to replace the pads.

Out of interest, what are you using the 18mm socket for?

Jul 13th, 2016, 23:25	#1
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	Front Brake Caliper Pad Retaining Springs I bought some pads for the front of my v70 t5 and asked the local garage to fit them. They said the wrong sized discs were on the car in the first place, so they had to fit new discs and subsequently new pads also. Apparently the ones I bought were not the right size. Anyway, a couple of months later and I've been getting brake squeal, really annoying so decided to add some copper grease to the rear of the pad. Took the wheel off and noticed there were no brake pad retaining springs on the calipers. Carried on and fixed the brake squeal, then called the garage and asked what had happened to my springs which I was sure were on before they did the work. They asked me to go show them, so I did, they then said new springs were on the way, then said new springs wouldn't fit and weren't needed anyway. They said that if they're were no springs when I took it in then they wouldn't have needed them or some ****e like that. Then said maybe the calipers fitted weren't standard perhaps and so on and on.... Anyone know if I should have these retaining springs fitted or not and if they serve a purpose? maybe I bought a v70 t5 which has some other calipers fitted but don't know what they are. __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked

Jul 13th, 2016, 23:37	#2
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	Does the caliper look something like this? __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles

Jul 13th, 2016, 23:53	#3
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	No, not really, looks like this: I will get the wheel off again tomorrow for a better picture. __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked Last edited by stellamon; Jul 13th, 2016 at 23:59.

Jul 14th, 2016, 10:09	#4
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	These are the pictures of my front caliper with no springs : __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked

Jul 14th, 2016, 10:37	#5
wise old monkey Premier Member Last Online: Jan 30th, 2024 17:57 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Letchworth	Your brakes are xc90 brakes. You will need 316mm discs. Not standard 305mm discs. From the looks of the picture the garage has fitted 305mm discs which means the pads will wear out over the top disc which over time the pads will meet together at the top over the disc. Mine was the same when i got mine. You can get the xc90 discs on ebay for £49.99 each. Also get the police spec pads for £29 delivered if they have any left. Last edited by wise old monkey; Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:41.

Jul 14th, 2016, 10:51	#6
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	OP, you're definitely missing a spring that should look similar to this. Stephenevans99 pic I believe..... __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles Last edited by cheshired5; Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:55.

Jul 14th, 2016, 10:59	#7
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	Thank you for identifying the calipers for me wise old monkey. The old pads had worn over the top of the old disc, that's why they fitted larger discs and from yesterdays inspection they seem to be the right size now, there is a 2-3mm rust line around the outer edge of the disc. Don't the XC90 calipers require the pad retaining springs then? __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked Last edited by stellamon; Jul 14th, 2016 at 11:05.

Jul 14th, 2016, 11:05	#8
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	Thank you very much cheshired5, it seems I'll need another word at the garage and may be searching for a new Indy. __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked

Jul 14th, 2016, 11:12	#9
wise old monkey Premier Member Last Online: Jan 30th, 2024 17:57 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Letchworth	i wouldnt go back to that garage, they seem clueless. this braking system is really easy to do your self, you will need a 55mm short tox, a g-clamp and a 18mm socket.

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