what mileage did your Clutch slave Cylinder give up at? [Archive]

y2blade

Aug 10th, 2011, 11:18

Anyone know what the differences in the clutch es fitted on the S60/V70s are?

Im guessing the D5 has a DMF, whereas the petrol doesnt, but is the slave cylinder assembly and pressure plate different between the different engines or are they all the same ?

they are all the same AFAIK

I know the S60R has the exact same set-up from reading on the American Volvo forums :broken_heart:

Garett

Aug 11th, 2011, 13:30

Had my clutch changed at 100k as it was slipping, I thought the slave was leaking but as it turned out it, it was fine but it was replaced anyway.
163 D5.

Clifty1175

Aug 11th, 2011, 22:24

My 2003 S60 D5 has done 96K and the slave started leaking during the winter. This raised it's head as a slight judder when driving off and a slight fluid weep at the bell housing underneath. The judder stops after a few junctions from cold and the clutch is fine under maximum load - at the moment. Topped up the fluid level though with about 100ml of DOT4 last week and keeping a close eye on the level from now on.

I've had a few quotes for the slave + clutch - I know its a monster of a job but i'd be very interested to see what prices people have paid for theirs to be replaced please and if any places in/near North Essex have done the work??

Cheers.

Ringsting

Aug 11th, 2011, 22:53

slave went at 74k, had clutch changed at same time just to get a guarantee basicaly.

ivor

Aug 12th, 2011, 10:19

Slave cylinder leaked at 110k. Cluch and DMF fine.
No warning. Suddenly the pedal stucked in down position.
Car 01 2,4T

Garett

Aug 12th, 2011, 11:31

I've had a few quotes for the slave + clutch - I know its a monster of a job but i'd be very interested to see what prices people have paid for theirs to be replaced please and if any places in/near North Essex have done the work??

Cheers.

For my 2001 D5 most of the quotes I had were in the region of £500 - £700 all in, the best I had was £450 but I managed to get it for £380 in the end, thats using an LUK clutch and Nordic slave cylinder. A good indy can do it in 4 hours.

Can't recommend anywhere near you as I'm in Lancashire!

roy chu1

Aug 16th, 2011, 22:00

Mine started pee peeing after 56k, so I dealt with it for a year and saved up for a Clutch, CSC and Fly Wheel.

They were nown for a premature pee peeing CSC

S60D5-185

Aug 17th, 2011, 07:15

2006 S60 D5 185 and it went at 62k:broken_heart:

y2blade

Aug 17th, 2011, 09:00

mine went at 150k without warning....it wasn't leaking at all....

.....while in there they fitted New Clutch kit and Dual Mass Flywheel too :) the flywheel had loads of play in it (Compared to the brand new Volvo one) and although there were no signs of this when driving it was prudent to fit a new one.

Local trusted Independent did the work all Genuine Volvo parts used.

:thumbs_up:

Smedley

Aug 17th, 2011, 16:36

S60 D5 (185).

The slave cyliner went a couple of weeks ago at 104k. The fluid contaminated the clutch so that was replaced but decided not to replace the DMF - time will tell if that was wise.

y2blade

Sep 13th, 2011, 12:49

Smedley did you measure the free-play in the DMF at all?
did you also replace the plastic plug with the uprated metal one?

Smedley

Sep 13th, 2011, 13:05

No, I wasn't able to inspect the DMF at all it was all done by phone. I was guided by the description by the the garage who said it looked in reasonable shape.

isleaiw

Sep 13th, 2011, 13:05

I am also now depressed, just over 97k (2007 2.4D S60), its due the service and cam belt, no doubt will need new tyres again (it always needs new tyres at every service!) and I think the rear discs are getting ready..... That lot with a clutch, DMF and slave cylinder will probably be about the same as the value of the car!

Ian

weble

Sep 14th, 2011, 15:58

Would i be wrong in hoping this is only a S60/V70 problem? Or can it be expected on a S80 too?

leedsladmatt

Sep 14th, 2011, 16:18

well further to my recent thread mine went at 107k no signs of leakage or failure, clutch just went to the floor leaving my street. Took the clutch with it but the DMF was fine so I've stuck with it. Time will tell on that choice I suppose. Given how compartivaly accessable parts are for repair on this I found it odd Volvo went for an internal slave cylinder, had a read in my Haynes and it sounds like a horrid job.

y2blade

Sep 14th, 2011, 19:18

Would i be wrong in hoping this is only a S60/V70 problem? Or can it be expected on a S80 too?

it is all the P2..V70,S60,S80..they all share the same Clutch parts

weble

Sep 15th, 2011, 13:54

I figured that might be the case.

Here's hoping mine all stay together and the fluid stays where it should be!

fuzzypicture

Sep 21st, 2011, 21:42

s60 2.0t 178k original clutch and slave, fingers crossed!
have had the occasional judder/screach on take up, but its been doing that since 80k.

Joe

Project239X

Sep 21st, 2011, 22:16

It wasn't the cylinder that went on mine, it was the plastic paddle and clip at the back of the pedal. Like everything else nowadays, you can'y buy just the paddle and clip at £4.00, you gotta spend the big bucks and buy the whole unit.

Volvo V50 R-Design D5 (2008)

Huri

Oct 2nd, 2011, 21:26

S60 D5 2006 and the clutch slave failed at 54000 miles. Unfortunately it happened during a touring holiday in southern France, Having it fixed over there was expensive to say the least, over £1200 at a main dealers. So much for tank like Volvos.

andy m

Nov 7th, 2011, 18:46

Mine has just been replaced.

42000K which I think is taking the **** on an 55 plate V70

Very lucky in that I had just picked up the car so was fixed within the 3 month warranty. £483.00 from my local Volvo specialist.

Also, fortunatly the cluch still looked as new and the DMF was fine.

Annoyed it went so soon. Happy it did not cost me.

Cheers,

Andy

cheapskate2003

Nov 7th, 2011, 20:00

Not keen on threads like this!

My 05 S60 D5 is on 135k and shows no signs of problems (bar a squeak from the DMF if it hasn't been used for a few days). I'm hoping it will see me through another 10k or so until I look to change it, I've probably cursed it now.

Farmer Tim

Nov 8th, 2011, 10:36

Clutch was replaced on my 55reg D5 185 at 125k and decided in advance to change the slave cylylinder when it was easy to do so.

The slave cylinder had a fluid weep around the seals. Not sure this ment it was about to go but shows its worth changing.

Richard Swinney

Nov 23rd, 2011, 17:48

Mine has gone in my S60R at 80939 miles, and joy of all joys, needed a slave cylinder, a clutch and a DMF.
Poverty ........ here i come :-(

y2blade

Dec 9th, 2011, 09:54

Mine has gone in my S60R at 80939 miles, and joy of all joys, needed a slave cylinder, a clutch and a DMF.

welcome to the club

v70xc

Dec 10th, 2011, 21:19

170k and still going on an x reg v70xc

ShadeTek

Mar 27th, 2012, 12:22

I have just acquired my V70 and the previous owner mentioned it was losing hydraulic fluid but the garage couldn't find any leaks. This made me think that the clutch circuit was the culprit and thinking the slave cylinder was external like my sensible external fitted slave on my 850, proceeded to purchase. Live and learn I guess.

jajrst

Mar 31st, 2012, 13:33

Just had the clutch, cylinder and DMF changed @ 122000 miles on my s80 2.4 along with the rear main oil seal. Joy of joys now I have a major oil leak...back to the garage.

y2blade

Apr 11th, 2012, 12:58

Just had the clutch, cylinder and DMF changed @ 122000 miles on my s80 2.4 along with the rear main oil seal. Joy of joys now I have a major oil leak...back to the garage.

:(

bloodyhell, sorry to hear that.

jajrst

Apr 12th, 2012, 20:33

Cheers y2blade. It's still in the garage. Fingers crossed for tomorrow that I get her back.

y2blade

May 21st, 2012, 15:15

Cheers y2blade. It's still in the garage. Fingers crossed for tomorrow that I get her back.

Any update?

Dtp

May 22nd, 2012, 08:10

S60R 2005 67,000 and £956 bill :( over two years ago now

Spike1918

May 22nd, 2012, 08:17

That`s CRIMINAL, I would want a ferkin new car for that, in fact it`s almost exactly what I payed for my S70!

jajrst

May 22nd, 2012, 11:29

Any update?

Sorry! Yes got her back about 2 weeks ago with a new DMF, Clutch and Slave and rear main seal.

Turns out the RMS was a generic one, the 2nd one was generic and blew off too, then my mechanic called Volvo who told him there's an updated design available which he's bought and fitted at cost to him and, thank God and touch wood, has been great so far! About £890 later though... :(

100K+

Jun 3rd, 2012, 10:32

222K on an 02 plate T5 and still Ok All still original

About 68K on an 04 Plate V70 R - Took out the works - fortunately had a warantee which paid for the 4 figure damage lol

Cheers

Bob

foggyjames

Jun 4th, 2012, 10:30

My clutch slipped a few times last winter (~15k ago), but it's been fine since...until yesterday! I'll be keeping an eye on it, but I am budgeting for a DMF, Clutch and CSC. 230k miles, but it's probably all been done before (there's lots of history with the car, but it's not specific!).

cheers

James

Digidick

Jul 30th, 2012, 12:40

Well my slave cylinder went this morning and shes on 164k. I'll be having everything changed (slave, clutch and duel) at around £700.

Managed to use a 30% discount code with Euro Car Parts today saving me over £200 so got all LUK parts for £445.20, result!..... sort of.

I know the owner of ETS Tyres here in the Derby/Notts area so they'll be fitting the parts for me.

ShadeTek

Aug 13th, 2012, 10:36

My thrust bearing failed a few weeks ago as I could hear it complain by whining at me. Of course I was several hundred miles away from home with the family in tow and I was concerned I was not going to make it through the weekend and miss the events. If I even touched the clutch pedal with minimal force it would scrape and whine. Luckily I made it back down the A9 from Boat of Garten without having to be rescued and dropped it off at the stealers later the next week for a new clutch slave cylinder/release bearing and now it is like a new car. It was going to need a new clutch in the next 10,000 anyhow due to the mileage but I hadn't anticipated it was going to be this soon, especially just after buying the car. It was getting hard to get into first and reverse. Replacing clutches is the only thing I have not repaired myself in 14 years of Volvo ownership and I do like to repair my own car so I know it is done right and they seem to have reconnected and seated all the components back in the correct place which is a plus!. Luckily no DMF needed as that would have been a killer. Mental idea putting the slave inside the bell housing, makes life harder and more expensive for us home mechanics.

Is it just me or do you find the clutch pedal annoyingly high? It makes me want to rest my foot on there as it is a pain taking it off the pedal and resting my foor back on the floor and then back uip again. Resting your foot on the clutch pedal will wear out the thrust bearing early and I'm wondering if that is what has happened here?

vagmuncher

Aug 15th, 2012, 09:06

Got in the car this morning and pedal went straight to the floor. So 97k for me.

Digidick

Aug 15th, 2012, 09:29

I got 30% discount from euro car parts last week with their discount code for my LUK flywheel, clutch kit and slave cylinder. Saved almost £200.

ShadeTek

Aug 15th, 2012, 20:03

I got 30% discount from euro car parts last week with their discount code for my LUK flywheel, clutch kit and slave cylinder. Saved almost £200.

You can get discount from ECP all the time if you shop at their internet only website, carparts4less.

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/?gclid=CLSf_o6o6rECFRGBfAodgkQAxg

Digidick

Aug 15th, 2012, 20:30

You can get discount from ECP all the time if you shop at their internet only website, carparts4less.

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/?gclid=CLSf_o6o6rECFRGBfAodgkQAxg

Ahh cool, cheers.

They always have codes running ranging 15%-30% on the main site anyway.

At the time I needed all my stuff they had a clutch code for 15% but I had to call them to check stock and asked if they'd put the 30% code (spend over£150) onto my order instead as online it would only accept the 15% as I was buying a clutch so very kindly the bloke agreed to override the system and us it. I was already happy with 15%:thumbs_up:

D5Nick

Aug 28th, 2012, 13:52

2004 S60 D5 with 90k on the clock and all the original CSC, Clutch and DMF as far as I know.

After reading all the posts in this thread I think I'll have all three replaced next year just to be on the safe side.....and that sounds like I'll only get change from a grand...:(

...Out of interest, how does a mechanic check the Clutch and DMF without taking half the car to bits? or it that exactly what they have to do? (just asking as it would be daft for me to fork out for replacing these items if it wasn't really necessary ;))

uzyg

Aug 30th, 2012, 14:47

s60 2.0T 52 plate Concentric Slave Cylinder gave up at 165,000 miles. Was gutted as I was considering selling the car just before this happened.

Diagnosis was clutch pedal stuck to the floor although no signs of leaking fluid. After taking apart you could see the bearing went on the Slave cylinder and covered the clutch in fluid. The clutch plate itself had a fair amount of life left in it and DMF only had a little play in so was fine to keep in.

Managed to source a brand new LUK clutch for £50 (which was packaged as Motaquip but had LUK embedded stamps all over the actual clutch) and a Motaquip Slave Cylinder for £45 and £100 for labor costs from a colleague. So for £195 all in, wasn't a bad price at all :thumbs_up:

The chap that changed it said it was one of the longest jobs he has done with the subframe coming out and the sheer amount of wires/lead/connectors that need to be placed out of the way. The only hiccup we had was when it came to testing the car after everything had been changed as it wouldn't find gear nor would it bleed correctly. He thought the master cylinder may also need changing but thankfully it settled down after 30mins or so and all of a sudden all was well. Perhaps it was air locked in the system or the seals not popped back in place properly.

Got the car back and clutch is as light as a feather and biting point is low down with a great silky feel to it...Might just keep the car now and see how many more miles we can get out of it.

y2blade

Sep 27th, 2012, 08:30

...Out of interest, how does a mechanic check the Clutch and DMF without taking half the car to bits? or it that exactly what they have to do? (just asking as it would be daft for me to fork out for replacing these items if it wasn't really necessary ;))

Unfortunately they can't Nick.....it all has to come apart.

ondrugs

Oct 3rd, 2012, 14:11

I'm having a problem with my '03 S80 D5 93k that i'm trying to figure out. I'm hoping it's not the clutch or gearbox.

Basically, I'm struggling to get into gear from stand still (any gear), but once it's in, all gears will engage - that's still while standing still with clutch depressed, cycling through the gears. If I go into neutral, release the clutch, I struggle getting into gear again.

When the car's moving though, no issues what so ever, athough 3rd has always felt a more difficult than others to get into.

What I haven't done is changed gears without the clutch while the car is off. Not sure what that would prove exatly.

There's no grinding, whining, slipping, and the clutch feels smooth.

What I'd love to hear is linkage bushes. What I don't want to hear is clutch, synchromesh or gear box. :broken_heart:

Any input would greatly appreciated.

atropa

Oct 3rd, 2012, 19:15

2003 V70,170hp petrol, 80000 miles
Clutch failed taking grandchildren to school. Slave cylinder leaked, gbox out, new parts, 7 hours labour @ 50 quid, £730. at an independent who were main dealers some years ago and after insolvency were bought out by the fitters. Still love this car though.

micken

Nov 19th, 2012, 23:05

Just gone tonight at 80136 miles. Uncanny, I've had the car from new Oct 2002, so it's done 10 years and 80k. To be fair this has been town driving so that's going to knacker a D5 clutch at some stage.

It's now in the indy garage and he's going to renew and replace as necessary. Also needing cam + auxilliary belts and associated wheels and rollers. Methinks it also needs steering fluid change plus all the other usual stuff.

Oh, and I must sort out that IC at some stage, it's whistling at me.

I love my D5 though. Recovery bloke has a S60 D5 and he loves his too.

Pondering on DMF though?

grey pelican

Dec 1st, 2012, 10:39

V40 1.9td 1999 just gone over 160,000 miles from new (one owner) all original but thinking that i need to change clutch.

micken

Dec 5th, 2012, 14:46

Have my D5 back on the road after having the following fitted: CSC, Clutch, DMF, intercooler, vacuum controlled engine mounts, gearbox mount, MAF sensor, cam belt + auxilliary and all rollers and tensioners, rear drop links and a full annual service on top.

All parts are Volvo original except the MAF sensor which is the Bosch part.

Hefty bill but I might get another ten years now. :thumbs_up:

gb1uk

Dec 7th, 2012, 01:51

Mine's just gone and I am just under 40,000 miles. XC90, D5 AWD Manual transmission. Flywheel needs doing too apparently!! Mad - spend over £40 grand on a brand new car and you don't expect this after 6 years with such low mileage...

'VOLVO - FOR LIFE' - don't think so!!!!

foggyjames

Dec 7th, 2012, 02:00

Low mileage means very little. In fact, in some situations, it can worsen matters, as the car has most likely been used for more stop-start driving, or not used much, both of which aren't good for it.

It's not just Volvos...in fact, the Volvos seem to be relatively robustly built in this regard, albeit not foolproof. Absolutely everything modern has the same issues, as they all have the same kit, although some have particularly severe problems (I'm looking at you, mk3 Mondeo, and your flywheel of butter). No doubt cars will be getting scrapped within a few years because of DMF failures (typically a £1k bill, once a new clutch and CSC are in).

My D5 has a shade under a quarter of a million miles on the clock, and is due a flywheel and clutch. It'll be interesting to see from the dates on the parts if they've been changed before. It's an ex-fleet car (i.e. mostly motorway use), so not inconceivable that it's all original.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the combination of the DMF and CSC failures does make an auto look vaguely attractive...!

cheers

James

micken

Dec 7th, 2012, 21:04

I can see where you are coming from foggyjames.

My V70 D5 has done loads of heavy city driving with a regular start, few miles, stop, park for the day and back again. It's had to be a daily driver, no other choice. Knowing what it's done from day one I've been happy to replace the bits that have seemed to give up somewhat prematurely.

Cheers

Mick

bigbimbo67

Feb 10th, 2013, 12:24

Hi there mine's went after 116,00k thing was it was the plastic core plug that went so oil all over the clutch. I was advised to do the crankcase oil seal as well as the csc dmf all came in at £1060 she was in and out in 3 days and I'am in love again

Lexington013

Feb 23rd, 2013, 17:34

Mine went at 88000 miles. Brand new clutch (LUK) and slave cylinder plus few associated bits. Came to over £1100 all in.
Car now on 112000 miles and has been brilliant!

oldgreybloke

Mar 15th, 2013, 14:38

Oo-er missus. 116k and counting:swoon:

TiredGeek

Mar 16th, 2013, 10:35

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the combination of the DMF and CSC failures does make an auto look vaguely attractive...!

Wash your mouth out with soap ;)

mario850

Mar 18th, 2013, 13:17

my s60 is being done at 112k due some kind of catastrofic clutch faliure

kicku

Apr 14th, 2013, 13:05

My car has 450.000km and the clutch it's still the original, works just fine.

howard14

Jul 5th, 2013, 00:37

Just had new slave cylinder,and clutch fitted at 63.000 mls. by the main agent. It had been leaking about a teaspoon full a day, and the warning message would come up in about a week, if I didn't keep the level up.
I have serviced my own cars for fifty four years, and this is only the second time any of them have seen the inside of someone else's work shop.
when I found out what was involved in this job, it became obvious to me that I should not tackle it myself.
The bill for this was just under £1000 inc. vat. and parts, and to be fair seems worth it to me, because it is a"big job" and I would not have liked to do it at any price.

The old csc and clutch was left in in the back for my inspection, and I took the csc to pieces to inspect the leaking seal. It's thin edge was ragged, and worn. I think this may be caused by the lack of any sort of protective gaiter, and this allows the friction material dust to coat the exposed bore of the cylinder, and give the seal lips a hard time.

I notice that pictures on the internet of this type of concentric cylinder show a protective gaiter, but not on my car. So it's no mystery to me then why it failed.
I wonder if the newly fitted cylinder has one?

It was all probably sanctioned by that person that thought the difficulties in changing the headlight bulbs was not a cruel joke...

Regards to all.
Howard.

Graveltrap

Jul 5th, 2013, 16:13

2008 S60 D5 just started showing the "low brake fluid" message so we'll say 101k for the slave seal. I thought there was some sort of improvement in 2006, but given that my 2005 S60 D5 made it to about 130k before the slave failed it appears not!

paulplom

Jul 31st, 2013, 06:28

Mine went at 78,000. £620 bill. 2005 d5 163.

ratman

Jul 31st, 2013, 08:15

just had a message come up saying 'Service now,low brake fluid' car has done 74K 56 2.4d.

gutted - level is at min and i can only presume that i have a big bill ahead of me.

Thassos

Jul 31st, 2013, 08:46

Might be a leak in the brake system, remove the under tray and find out if fluid is coming out of the bellhousing.. , could just be your brake fluid level has been low and needs a topup also.. the brake fluid reservoir has a divider so you might see if one half is more empty also.

ratman

Jul 31st, 2013, 09:43

I'm taking it in at lunchtime to be looked at, i am hopeful it is the brake system as you say. The fluid was changed 6 months ago, 6 months of wear on pads could lower level.

But i have to prepare for the worse. The light suddenly came on last night, and since then it comes on every time i brake or go around a corner, so that tells me there has been a 'Sudden' drop in levels.

I am meant to be off to Wales on Sunday so i don't want to be in a situation where the clutch fails!

fingers crossed.

Mnkiboy

Jul 31st, 2013, 11:48

Had my 2003 170bhp petrol since January and i've had the low brake fluid warning 4 times now. Looks likely that i'll soon have to fork out for the slave cylinder to be changed.
Only just spent £400 on wishbone bushes, droplinks and new handbrake shoes so don't really need another expense.

ratman

Jul 31st, 2013, 13:08

well its been confirmed....gutted, what a piece of S&&t. I wish i had kept my passat!

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt178/rat840771/IMG_0431_zps333746ce.jpg

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt178/rat840771/IMG_0432_zps9038ec5e.jpg

Including DMF is £1300. Question is do i get the DMF done, they had a recent issue where it was not done, then it went 3 months later and the whole lot had to be done again.

They are going to order the DMF and if it is okay retutrn it and save £500.

ratman

Aug 1st, 2013, 14:59

update for all you future sufferers

Clutch is 75% worn and unaffected by failed CSC
DMF is worn but as expected for age of car and is 'Showing signs of wear in the form of dust in the bell housing.

I was told that by some miracle the fluid just ran around the housing and out of the bottom.

I have decided to also get the DMF changed.

all for £1067...cash.

alot of money

steadvex

Aug 31st, 2013, 09:37

2005 s60 with 164k on the clock, never went on mine, and I did tend to drive it hard....for its first 8 months of ownership I also used it as a van, I figured that wouldn't help. Service history implied that it hadn't been done, but I guess you'll never know 100%

owned it for 60k, alternator, starter motor and steering rack however did get replaced!

Hoping it doesn't go on my second one, but I'm sure it will just as I'm out of work & money!

RavenT

Sep 1st, 2013, 12:01

159,443 Still clinging on!!!

Laney760

Sep 2nd, 2013, 00:15

Bought my 940 last year with 80 odd thou on the clock and the slave cylinder failed within weeks of buying the car. The previous owner had already had a new clutch fitted at well under 80 thou in 2010 though so god knows what his clutch work was like. What I didn't know when I bought the car was that the clutch had a dual mass flywheel and that that wasn't changed in 2010 but from what I've read in 700/900 section the dmf doesn't fail very often on the 900s? (famous last words)

Edited, oops, thought this was general section, just seen it's the S80 etc section, sorry!

Roger460

Sep 4th, 2013, 06:55

micken

Nov 3rd, 2013, 23:30

Hi,

I'm not knowledgable at all I'm afraid so need help please. My clutch has just gone but I can still get 3rd. There's a whine coming from the engine bay. The pedal isn't stuck down but you have to tap it with your foot to make it come all the way up. Please help with any ideas of what the prob is exactly. Thanks so much in advance.

The problem is it will go very soon, be prepared!

....... and the very best of luck if you get stuck somewhere when the clutch pedal hits the floor and stays there.

Mick

ubuntufan

Jan 26th, 2014, 11:16

My 2,4 petrol 170hp 2005 made 87.000 miles. Flywheel was okay so it was 1350 only :censored: at volvo. dealer advised to change the crank oil seal at the same time.
Before the cluch had judder sometimes when cold and other times when warm. now its like a new car and its much easier to control the cluch engagement, cheers.

martinrpeachey

Feb 25th, 2014, 10:37

Plod changed the clutch in mine at 50k but the second one lasted to 189k so it didn't do bad, especially since the first 80 k was under plod abuse. I had the clutch, slave, DMF, RMS, flywheel bolts and driveshaft seals changed for a grand sum of £1100. All LUK parts for the clutch, everything else was genuine Volvo parts.

mcpie

Feb 25th, 2014, 11:18

My DMF is giving me a judder and some rattles when it's cold so I've decided to have the flywheel, clutch and slave replaced this week. I'm getting a good deal so I'm treating it all as a preventative piece of maintenance - as I don't want to be without the car all of a sudden. I'm hoping to feel a big improvement... time will tell! Car is 120,000 mile D5 163bhp.

Previous owner was of dubious skill with a clutch!

D5meister

Feb 25th, 2014, 11:48

Hi, part of that rattle and judder is the box cantilever strap from box to front of subframe.

it has 2 rubber bushes - the front one is too small for the job and breaks up

Leaving play (judder) and rattile endstops on metal as rubber shot.

£35 can fit yousrelf if handy.

Cures most of what you have - I know what u mean about the DMF etc. Geot core plug and real main seal done too

D5meister

Feb 25th, 2014, 11:50

When u fit a clutch slave is there a bleed nipple like on brake calipers to remove air in hydralic line and slave too???

The air has to GO Somewhere - what dya do??

gudgeonpin

Feb 25th, 2014, 12:05

Getting on for 160k original everything no rattles or nasty noises as yet...

mcpie

Feb 25th, 2014, 12:17

The strap was replaced around 10,000 miles ago as I thought (too) that was where the judder was coming from, it didn't make any difference. The clue seems to be when the car is cold it's at it's worst.

martinrpeachey

Feb 25th, 2014, 12:18

When u fit a clutch slave is there a bleed nipple like on brake calipers to remove air in hydralic line and slave too???

The air has to GO Somewhere - what dya do??

Look straight down to the gearbox, on the front (closest to you) there's what looks like a tyre valve cap and some metal pipe coming off it. That's the bleed nipple.

D5meister

Feb 26th, 2014, 02:25

thanks martin..

good vid for sac fitting for general benefit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGaiUejsI1k

steve

rtlkyuubi

Mar 16th, 2014, 23:42

no paperwork to mention anything about a clutch change on mine so still on the original 203k miles in, though it has just started slipping....

The Heg

Mar 25th, 2014, 22:24

Mine died catastrophically at 82k. Had the clutch and DMF changed too. As a t5 6 speed with a chip to 310bhp, the bill was about £1400. I'd had the car 10 days, but the previous owner gave £400 towards it, which I thought was decent.

jackthehat.co.uk

Mar 26th, 2014, 15:44

We bought our car with 125K on the clock so I assume it had already been replaced before. At 150K it blew in the middle of a dual carriageway and left us stranded. Main dealer was the only option at that time and it cost us £700 to be repaired. Car now has 222K on the clock so expecting it to go again soon.

deepsix

May 11th, 2014, 18:35

97,000miles on a 2.0D V50. Very little warning just lost clutch.

ondrugs

May 12th, 2014, 08:23

mine's on its way @105k. it slips when the car is warmed up and i accelerate hardish from 2000rpm. quote i have is £550 for fitting and LUK clutch parts. add another £500 for a dual mass fly wheel.

SteveWS60

Jun 6th, 2014, 11:07

My 2002 S60 D5 is on 132k and still on it's original I think. Clutch is quite high but no slipping or rattles so all good!......so far :-)

Hix

Jun 24th, 2014, 11:36

Mine went last night at 118,000
Found LUK kit for £235.99 (http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/c/Volvo_S60_2.4_2006/p/car-parts/car-transmission/clutch-and-associated-parts/clutch-kit/?637669860&1&93da05e0e8686bd835ffd0b8456e46a8a35acaa7&1&000069) and DMF for £370.99 (http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/c/Volvo_S60_2.4_2006/p/car-parts/car-transmission/clutch-and-associated-parts/flywheel/?336660120&1&0cbda273899f868cc3828b20874286f43ed2abee&000134), though with pretty much exclusively motorway miles, it'll be good to go again.
Been advised to get rear main seal and core plug done too.
Just need to find somewhere to get the job done that is trustworthy. Only place I've found couldn't do it until the arse end of next week. ~£580 + VAT without the DMF....

muffmonkey

Jul 1st, 2014, 16:26

Clutch has been slipping for a while now in high gears under load,had the dpf removed and remap a while back now so the extra power increase will have certainly finished it off.

The car has done 148k mainly motorway miles and on original clutch so it has done well I think,all 3 parts were replaced as advised by the garage doing my car,rear main was leaking also so that got replaced aswell.

tony209

Jul 1st, 2014, 19:21

My clutch had to be changed in December, 157K (V70 2.4) but had been slipping for a while. Clutch, DMF, front springs, suspension top mounts, new front discs and pads all done at the same time. Not sure if they did the Clutch slave cylinder.

fackrell

Jan 17th, 2015, 09:53

My slave cylinder went this week. No warning , no problems, no lights, no obvious leakage as car is garaged every day and nothing on the floor. Regular service at Volvo main dealer.

My car is in mint condition, I am very disappointed. I was driving down a steep hill on a busy duel carriage way in the rush hour. I was one very scared unaccompanied lady driver.

Is this really what you should expect from a quality car?

foggyjames

Jan 17th, 2015, 10:47

39k is unusually low, but it's not a Volvo issue - pretty much everything uses a CSC nowadays, and they're made by the same people. It's one of the occupational hazards of owning a car made in the last 15-20 years.

cheers

James

stilleto

Jan 19th, 2015, 00:03

165k and still going strong....

Phaedrus68

Jun 5th, 2015, 19:18

No problems yet, 178,000 miles.

Mine's a 2.5 VAG TD (5252T) - are they subject to the same clutch issues as discussed on this thread?

volvo fox

Jun 6th, 2015, 06:46

My v40, D2,was replaced at 12,500.

T5R92011

Jul 30th, 2015, 11:24

What are the advantages of CSC over a regular external slave cylinder?

It boggles the mind that on something like a Honda accord, the slave cylinder is so accessible it practically high-five's you when you open the bonnet. 10 minute job. No reprecussions.

But on the Volvo? £1,000 onwards, Sub-Frame removal, DMF replacement, whole clutch replacement......

Stupid Stupid design, putting something that is guarenteed to fail INSIDE the gearbox.

foggyjames

Jul 30th, 2015, 11:39

Almost everything made in the last 20 years uses a CSC, including Hondas. Volvo switch in about 1997 on their FWD cars.

My understanding is that it allows a higher ratio for a lighter pedal with throw-distance being limited by a fork. Given that weight (and torque) is climbing ever higher, the clutches need to have higher clamping force, and hence higher release force.

But yes, they're a huge pain when they fail.

cheers

James

4candles

Jul 30th, 2015, 21:55

Big thumbs up on the 360 Turbo btw James, :thumbs_up:
had a GLT decades ago and toyed with fitting a Turbo motor from a 700?

I gather it was never a factory model?

Great car, but sadly got rather frilly so i derby'd it...
4c.

MMT5

Jul 31st, 2015, 09:44

My concentric slave cylinder failed in April this year at 152'000 miles and of course when it was the most inconvenient time.

I had just refueled and went to pull out of the garage, pedal went the floor so I pulled the pedal back up with my foot but then the clutch engaged by itself and then I knew straight away what had failed.

I got out of the car and there it was, fluid pouring out of the small drain hole at the bottom of the gearbox.

What I will say though is that I did have warning signs prior to it failing, and these were intermittent in the form of a rough bearing sound when the vehicle was started from cold and finally the week before failure it had a squeaking noise that only went away when the clutch pedal was pressed.

I had my vehicle recovered to Volvo for repair and asked them to fit a replacement dual mass flywheel, clutch kit and csc, the total cost was £1700.

DXMachina

Aug 3rd, 2015, 12:09

GrahamBrown1

Aug 3rd, 2015, 18:49

OK, I am a V40 owner currently considering buying a used S60

What should I watch out for with the CSC? and its it a guaranteed-to-fail-eventually part (like the worthless thermostat volvo fitted to the petrol S/V40) or just one that sometimes goes?

Its odd as this issue is unheard of on the V40/S40 forum despite our cars using the same engine family, same gearbox and presumably similar hydraulic clutches

The thought of buying a £1000 car then being faced with a repair bill of the same magnitude is concerning: it makes me wonder if all the cheap S60s around are cheap because the owners realised the CSC was going....

You want a cheap s60, well there isn't such a thing. There are loads of issues a list longer than my arm that would cost you a fortune to repair. The s/v 40 cars as you know are hellish reliable. If you want an s60 save and spend a little
More because you will get a better car. I like my s60 but if I couldn't repair it my self then ownership costs would been through the roof. My slave started to leak but then stopped so I'm currently risking
It. There a very common failure on these cars and 1000 pound plus repair.

2.4TSE

Aug 4th, 2015, 12:30

An interesting thread.

V70 2.4T. Twelve and a half years old. 116k miles. Still on all the original drivetrain components.

Reading the thread though makes me wonder whether to bite the bullet and preventatively maintain the clutch assembly. I trust my village garage completely - and they are also within walking distance of home - so will ask them to price:

> Replacement of clutch and slave cylinder with Luk or Volvo boxed items (whichever is cheaper)
> Replacement of DMF at the same time if seen as necessary when exposed to view

The car has been BSP PPC software tuned - with measured massive torque increase over standard - for over 10 years and probably something like 90K miles so I am amazed that the DMF is still apparently in good health with no symptoms of vibration or sloppiness on power take-up.

Backo

Oct 2nd, 2015, 21:27

2002 V70 B5244S2. The clutch itself started slipping though, so I guess it's time for the whole lot.
How can I tell btw if I've got DMF fitted?
And one more thing - I will go for new rear oil seal, but what is "core plug" ?

4candles

Oct 2nd, 2015, 22:49

And one more thing - I will go for new rear oil seal, but what is "core plug" ?

Its a blank for an oil-way, its got a rubber seal which fails, new one is a modified design i believe.

The engine manufacture YAMAHA thought it would be fun to create an oil leak hazard within car manufacture which could potentially cause a hazard to their other market, MOTORCYCLISTS.

Brendan W

Dec 10th, 2015, 16:25

Now that you mention it I recall poking around the back of my old Toyota TA-40 and finding Yamaha on the back of the head. How many engines are they making in their piano shops and is this where the phrase a tune-up came from ?

4candles

Dec 10th, 2015, 17:39

Now that you mention it I recall pokng around the back of my old Toyota TA-40 and finding Yamaha on the back of the head. How many engines are they making in their piano shops and is this where the phrase a tune-up came from ?

The ones i have 'heard' about just said 'This way up, Max 20 Psi' :wac_biggrin:

Brendan W

Apr 9th, 2016, 09:22

Took me a while but I do eventually get there :)

mertzman

Aug 28th, 2016, 16:44

Mine never went as such but was replaced with the clutch and pressure plate at 194k. DMF was new back at 175k so did not replace.

Previous owner had the lot changed by a 'specialist' who kindly fitted the plate the wrong way around! Amazed it lasted 20 odd k like that...

Black dog

Aug 28th, 2016, 20:26

204450 miles and still on the origeonal. I asked Previous owner if he ever had the clutch replaced and he said no, never had any engine or drive train problems. Anyone had a 6speed one go?

outnumbered

Aug 29th, 2016, 06:52

2006 XC70 D5 81000
Mike

oragex

Jan 18th, 2018, 03:50

Those who had it failed, do you keep the clutch pedal depressed while waiting at a traffic light?

petey

Jan 18th, 2018, 12:15

Min failed about 9 years ago, I guess on about 70k or so ('05 D5 SE 6 speed). I was still servicing it at an independent in the hope that service history might add to the resale value. Sadly, now the resale value is more sentimental than ever it is financial.

Do I hold the clutch down at lights? Generally not, unless I'm the first in line. I've been towing a caravan for the last 5 years and it's on 155k with no evidence of any failure.

Just one of those things I guess.....

t clark

Jan 19th, 2018, 20:26

fitted new complete clutch at 155,000 old slave still working but changed it any way

2001 v70 2.4 now on 158,000 and goes like a goodun

mannyo1221

Feb 19th, 2018, 07:27

183K miles on my 2003 D5, still as far as I am aware on the original slave cylinder and clutch.

I am the second owner of the car, and had this one 2 years and the previous owner had it from new. I have loads of receipts and paperwork, but nothing for new slave cylinder or even the clutch.

big_ben

Jun 19th, 2018, 16:06

2005 D5, 296k miles, original still on. clutch and DMF were changed at 240k due to slipping.

Stev Mac

Jun 29th, 2018, 12:26

from what I've read it is VERY common, so thought I'd ask what mileage yours gave up at?
Clutch cylinder replaced on my 2007 V70 sports edition P11 163 bhp at 118,000 replaced with a new DMF plate and bearing as informed the oil would have contaminated the clutch anyway as the box was out it made common sense. Total cost £1,320 inclusive of the tax.

ma70

Aug 1st, 2018, 21:27

'06 (P2) S80 D5, currently on 191k. I have no idea if any of it has ever been replaced, although I have a feeling the clutch isn't all that old going by the feel of it.

The car is a former private hire vehicle and I think most of it's miles were done on open roads as it's from a fairly rural area of Scotland. Whatever the score with it, if/when it goes I'll be doing the deed myself and checking for date codes.