Removal cd changer. C70 2006> precautions

[0006Andy]

I have a c 70. 2006> 2.5 t5 model. It has a floating centre console with multichanger cd which has a deck error.
The local dealership has quoted a silly figure to take it out and only recommends complete replacement at approx £800 a unit.
A local auto electrical company is happy to examine it and there is a chance it could be repaired.
I know I can remove the unit myself however I have the following questions I need to answer before I attempt it.
1) what precautions should I take
2) would I upset any network or computer by removing the unit.
3)would I have to have anything re-set by Volvo workshop
4) what functions would I lose while radio disconnected
5) if removing cd changer , can I reconnect radio pending reconnection of the changer.
6) can I drive the car without effecting systems once changer removed whilst it is being assessed
7)if changer is knackered what options do I have for replAcement or alternative iPod aux connection

Can anyone point me to a good online link which would help any aspect of this

Thanks in advance for anyone's help

[brikas]

3)would I have to have anything re-set by Volvo workshop



If you put a 2nd hand unit inside- you have to reset security system, only dealership can do that, cost me about 67£ total.

[0006Andy]

Thanks brikas
Thanks for the heads up.
Plan to take it out this weekend , fingers crossed!
Dealership now saying that it might not need any resets!? Not convinced they know one way or the other.

[torroa]

It usually does, otherwise your car won't accept the new changer. You will have to set Security on MOST - off

Volvo SW part# 36004 and 30667249

[0006Andy]

I only recently got around to taking out the unit.

The dealership said I didn't not have to disconnect anything therefore I just took it out without any problem.

got a second hand one from a breaker and fitted the replacement.

Only then I was told by everyone that they wont turn off the MOST system as Volvo don't like it and black mark against their name.

One or two implied the turning off of the MOST system had other knock on effects which I did not quite understand. these both to the downloader from the web based Volvo systems and when my car next gets hooked upto a Volvo system.

I therefore sent the unit back to the breaker and got most of my money back !
I decided that the best option therefore was to send the unit off for possible repair.

the disc separators had come loose and there was 4 cd s stuck inside.

Sent it off via a local auto electrical specialist who sent it to a place in Ipswich.
They say that the loading mechanism needs to be replaced and was quoted a stupid price.

this therefore leaves me to investigate other options.

1) is it possible to replace the cartridge inside the unit from another Volvo changer. Would this get around the system thinking that there was a foreign component in the system. IE same circuit board but different internal cartridge. Would this work?

2) how easy is to replace the loading mechanism in the changer without shelling out loads of money?

3) is there an aftermarket option to replace the unit with a new one (not expensive Volvo) Would this would work and integrate to the c70 system when MOST is on. Any ideas here would be useful. to elaborate, it could be a DAB radio with single cd and controllable mp3 aux.

I have spoken with one company locally who said nothing would fit :-(

Any advice gratefully received.

[Clan]

I only recently got around to taking out the unit.

The dealership said I didn't not have to disconnect anything therefore I just took it out without any problem.

got a second hand one from a breaker and fitted the replacement.

Only then I was told by everyone that they wont turn off the MOST system as Volvo don't like it and black mark against their name.

One or two implied the turning off of the MOST system had other knock on effects which I did not quite understand. these both to the downloader from the web based Volvo systems and when my car next gets hooked upto a Volvo system.

I therefore sent the unit back to the breaker and got most of my money back !
I decided that the best option therefore was to send the unit off for possible repair.

the disc separators had come loose and there was 4 cd s stuck inside.

Sent it off via a local auto electrical specialist who sent it to a place in Ipswich.
They say that the loading mechanism needs to be replaced and was quoted a stupid price.

this therefore leaves me to investigate other options.

1) is it possible to replace the cartridge inside the unit from another Volvo changer. Would this get around the system thinking that there was a foreign component in the system. IE same circuit board but different internal cartridge. Would this work?

2) how easy is to replace the loading mechanism in the changer without shelling out loads of money?

3) is there an aftermarket option to replace the unit with a new one (not expensive Volvo) Would this would work and integrate to the c70 system when MOST is on. Any ideas here would be useful. to elaborate, it could be a DAB radio with single cd and controllable mp3 aux.

I have spoken with one company locally who said nothing would fit :-(

Any advice gratefully received.

you need to contact the "place in Ipswich" , cut out the middle man .
They have been repairing volvo radios for over 40 years so are genuinly "Specialists " If they cant do it no one can . you have to be prepared to pay for decent work too you cant do these things on the cheap , however £800 is a joke .

your other option is the Pure Highway DAB 300Di volvo supply and fit for about £295 with custom volvo loom and bracket , As a bonus you get USB , i-Pod and AUX .. a really nice neat unit .

http://www.centralservicescaraudio.co.uk/

[pgm]

do a search on ebay for a delphi 28000024. thats the 6cd changer unit. swap the circuit board over and reinstall with the new mechanical bits and job done. The problem with them is the changer unit is not very strong (plastic gears etc.) and the mechanical bits fail. I fixed mine for about £60 all in but you will have to do a little soldering.

Paul

[Welton]

I am *very* interested in the outcome of this repair since my CD changer has just started 'not reading' discs (although the mechanism is fine) mine reads ok when cold but when the interior is hot is won't work properly.

[0006Andy]

thanks everyone so far for your input.

I rang central services and they quoted £340 for new loading mechanism
The local auto electrical will probably make £60 on top if done through them
£800 would be for a brand new one.

Still feels expensive for the repair and will consider alternatives.

If it works, the lowest cost may be to switch internal cartridges from a like for like model. I can get a second hand one for approx. £120. I realise the risk here is that I don't know the extent of wear and tear.

Im told that when a cartridge from a different model is used, this may not work so I need clarification about whether the switch of cartridge from a like for like model would work?

I am still interested in alternatives. Looked briefly at the PURE DAB, but in my opinion does not look as neat as the normal display in the c70 and questions arise over am/fm line in, use of existing aerial. Not decided on this yet.

Im told there may be a clarion option but don't know of details yet.

The Delphi Ive not looked at yet. Not sure about the soldering. Will this work with the MOST system switched on as no local Volvo specialist will touch unless it does.

[pgm]

thanks everyone so far for your input.

I rang central services and they quoted £340 for new loading mechanism
The local auto electrical will probably make £60 on top if done through them
£800 would be for a brand new one.

Still feels expensive for the repair and will consider alternatives.

If it works, the lowest cost may be to switch internal cartridges from a like for like model. I can get a second hand one for approx. £120. I realise the risk here is that I don't know the extent of wear and tear.

Im told that when a cartridge from a different model is used, this may not work so I need clarification about whether the switch of cartridge from a like for like model would work?

I am still interested in alternatives. Looked briefly at the PURE DAB, but in my opinion does not look as neat as the normal display in the c70 and questions arise over am/fm line in, use of existing aerial. Not decided on this yet.

Im told there may be a clarion option but don't know of details yet.

The Delphi Ive not looked at yet. Not sure about the soldering. Will this work with the MOST system switched on as no local Volvo specialist will touch unless it does.

The Delphi is the oem. I took mine out and researched the numbers on the unit.

Paul

[Clan]

thanks everyone so far for your input.

I rang central services and they quoted £340 for new loading mechanism
The local auto electrical will probably make £60 on top if done through them
£800 would be for a brand new one.

Still feels expensive for the repair and will consider alternatives.

If it works, the lowest cost may be to switch internal cartridges from a like for like model. I can get a second hand one for approx. £120. I realise the risk here is that I don't know the extent of wear and tear.

Im told that when a cartridge from a different model is used, this may not work so I need clarification about whether the switch of cartridge from a like for like model would work?

I am still interested in alternatives. Looked briefly at the PURE DAB, but in my opinion does not look as neat as the normal display in the c70 and questions arise over am/fm line in, use of existing aerial. Not decided on this yet.

Im told there may be a clarion option but don't know of details yet.

The Delphi Ive not looked at yet. Not sure about the soldering. Will this work with the MOST system switched on as no local Volvo specialist will touch unless it does.

that is a bit steep considering you can buy the cartridge for £28 from USA .

[0006Andy]

that is a bit steep considering you can buy the cartridge for £28 from USA .

Hi clan,
Wow that is a striking difference to replace the whole internal cartridge for £28. Do you have a link or anything. I assume if you swap the internal cartridge with a new or identical one, it should work?

Thanks again for your help

[Clan]

Hi clan,
Wow that is a striking difference to replace the whole internal cartridge for £28. Do you have a link or anything. I assume if you swap the internal cartridge with a new or identical one, it should work?

Thanks again for your help

You would need to fit your circuit board to the new changer or just use the new changer's parts to fix your broken changer .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111698176230?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[0006Andy]

You would need to fit your circuit board to the new changer or just use the new changer's parts to fix your broken changer .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111698176230?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Thanks for the link, very useful. I will order when I can clarify another problem I have !

Trouble is I now have another problem.

When I reconnected my cd changer the volume does not work.
The radio scans, picks up stations, the pre-sets are still there, the volume scale increases and decreases, but absolutely no sound evident!

The company that tested the changer said they did not dismantle it, merely put some power through it to see if the mechanism would work. that's all. they said what they did would not have caused this problem and thus accept no responsibility for this problem.

I have all the relevant displays and given that the display looks normal, I doubt that it is any broken cables.

how do I establish if this is inside the unit or in the amp which is in the back of the car?

Once I establish the cause and options, this will determine whether it is worth ordering a replacement cartridge !

Any further thoughts on this would be useful.