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Burdekin Jan 21st, 2021 19:29

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These are 205s look too big for the rim from the pic.

Burdekin Jan 21st, 2021 19:41

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Originally Posted by 142 Guy (Post 2701147)
The photos that I posted of my car are with 185/65 Michelins on the ATS rims with the Amazon Cars progressive road springs. Something to consider is that as you increase the section width steering resistance increases so take that into consideration if you have to do any significant low speed maneuvering, particularly if you have or plan to fit a smaller steering wheel.

In the mid '70s 185/70 was the common 'wide tire' fitted on to 140s. That may have been in part due to the fact that 185/70 was a very common tire size in the '70s (good selection) and that the profile height was very close (-2%) to the original 165/80 so the overall final drive ratios didn't change significantly. But, I think the only tires available in the 185/70 size are from Vredstein ($) and Pirelli ($$$).

Derek raises a point about tire height. This can be a consideration depending on what final drive ratio you are using. With a 4.1 differential ratio the 185/65 tire will give you a overall final drive ratio that is about the same as the original 165/80 tire with a 4.27 differential. With OD that should be quite acceptable at highway speeds. If you already have a 4.27 differential, then fitting is going to result in higher engine speeds. If you have a lot of hills / low speed driving then you may like that change in overall drive ratio. If you don't have OD / do a lot of high speed driving you may not like the increase in noise.

As you note the ATS rims are a 5.5" rim width so the 'common' application guides say that the maximum recommended tire width is 195 mm and the ideal tire width is 175mm - 185 mm. Some tire manufactures list 5.5" rims as acceptable for their 205 mm section width tires; but, when you do that both the tires contact patch and height changes and performance may change.

No plans to change the steering wheels as I love the original ones. My wife occasionally drives the 142 so that may be an issue. She saw the ATS rims today and was asking; what are they for, I thought you weren’t changing the look of the 142, what’s different with these ones? She doesn’t understand. 😁

Yeah there are old style 185/70 tyres and yes pretty expensive. I have a M41 from a 73 car but not in yet. Most of my driving is on A roads, not really too much on motorways. I would prefer to keep close to the original tyre size but have seen other folk with the 185/65 also. The 195s do offer a lot of good tyres at a reasonable price.

AndrewBrown Jan 22nd, 2021 22:02

Be careful you don't go too wide tyres

My Gold 1971 164 was fitted with 205 tyres by the previous owner and the tires rub on the anti-roll bar when turning its taken off the paint to the bare metal

also I think its an MOT failure too if they rub


look here for tyres

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/

morwenna240 Jan 22nd, 2021 23:37

Go to Tyreleader, biggest range of tyres on the planet, best price, too.

Burdekin Feb 6th, 2021 19:55

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Went for Goodyear efficientgrip performance 2 195 65 15 tyres for the ATS rims. Don't think you would want to go any wider on these rims. Also bought a set of GT rims, they were cheap so couldn't resist.

Next job is to strip out the seats and carpets. Fix any rust and add the soundproofing. Needs to be complete before end of the month.

Then some more suspension and engine mods in early March. New slightly lower progressive springs, a new good used front cross member which needs topcoating, new wishbones and PU bushes. Then a wee bit of engine upgrades; TT3 cam, timing gears, 7kg flywheel, clutch and unleaded head conversion.

Hopefully Covid permitting will be driving her down to Englandshire in April.

Laird Scooby Feb 6th, 2021 22:35

Nice! Always been a fan of those style ATS alloys, optional on Mk1 Cavaliers but sadly not fitted by many people, really sets cars off well those wheels.

Will really look the part on a 142! :thumbs_up:

Burdekin Feb 7th, 2021 07:25

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Originally Posted by Laird Scooby (Post 2707564)
Nice! Always been a fan of those style ATS alloys, optional on Mk1 Cavaliers but sadly not fitted by many people, really sets cars off well those wheels.

Will really look the part on a 142! :thumbs_up:

Yeah they look fab. Similar to the Ferrari F40 wheels which they also used a copy of in Oz that became known as Bathurst globe's.

Burdekin Feb 18th, 2021 11:01

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Stripped out the interior this week and started prepping for some new paint, seam sealer and insulation. Increased my Swedish treasure hoard with another two coins. Also wet vacuumed the carpets and spray painted my replacement horn push. Got a fair bit to do over the next week.

Forgot, also vacuumed out the sills.

142 Guy Feb 19th, 2021 16:30

Your carpet cleaning appears to have come out well. Those appear to be the same brown carpets as I have in my 1971 142 E. I cleaned mine using one of those commercial hot water carpet cleaners and it took either 3 or 4 cleaning treatments before dirt stopped showing up in the cleaner's catch tank (40 + years accumulation). Your carpets appear to be in better condition than mine. My underlay ended up in the garbage can; but, the carpets were in remarkably good condition.

After cleaning I has some fading along the sides of the tunnel. I also had some burn marks as a previous owner of the car appeared to be a vigorous smoker (circular burn marks around the window winder crank, burn marks from missing the ash tray, burn marks on the driver seat cushion between the legs .....). The burn marks on the carpet were mostly on the driver's side just in front of the seat so not highly visible. They were just superficial so I re-fuzzed them by applying a little glue to the bald spots and sprinkling on some long fiber flock in a close color. Not perfect; but, better than before and largely hidden by my floor mats. To deal with the fading and try to color match my patch job better, I purchased several bottles of dark brown Rit fabric dye, put the carpets into a large heavy duty contractors garbage bag, dumped 3 or 4 gallons of hot water premixed with the Rit into the bag with the carpets, sealed them up and let them soak where they were exposed to the sun to keep the bags warm. I rotated them every 30 minutes or so to agitate the mixture. Following the dye job I did have to retape the seams in the carpet because I removed all the original binding materials in order to get the carpets to lay flat in the garbage bag.

The dye job turned out better than I had expected. It is probably a touch darker than the previous color; but, that was in comparison to the 'before' condition which was faded. More importantly the carpet is now uniform in color. The Rit also turned out to be colorfast on the carpet. After recommissioning my car following restoration, it was put into storage for the winter. During storage, the rubber on my brand new heater hoses relaxed under the clamps at the back of the heater allowing about 2 l of coolant to slowly drain into the driver side footwell. In order to clean out this sticky mess I had to remove the carpets and use a hot water carpet cleaner to get the coolant out of the carpets. The color of the waste water in the catch tank ended up pale green indicating that there was no obvious wash out of the dye.

As a related footnote for anybody replacing their coolant hoses, recheck your hose clamps about 1 month after replacement of the hoses. The rubber in use on a lot of the aftermarket hoses deforms under the pressure of the clamp resulting in loss of clamping pressure and sealing. Just about all the connections on my new rad and heater hoses developed oozing coolant leaks.

Burdekin Feb 19th, 2021 17:52

We have a wee wet Bissell vacuum cleaner at home which is excellent for this. I gave them three cleans, too much and you start sucking too much of the carpet fibres out. A lot of muck comes out. I have the original rubber mats to go back in as well so you don’t see too much of the carpet. Will get the first coat of epoxy mastic primer down tomorrow is the plan. Need to get it painted, insulated and sills rust proofed in the next week. Also got a replacement crossmember and wishbones to paint this week and fit poly bushes. Then it’s Amazon car springs, cam change, lightened flywheel, clutch, unleaded head conversion, timing gears etc by the 20th March. If I get time I also will be renewing the external trim and maybe polishing and clear coat the replacement bumpers. All going to plan will be driving down to Englandshire in April. Fingers crossed.


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