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Lexman8 Jan 31st, 2017 16:43

MY2018 cars
 
If it follows previous form, production of MY2018 would start around the end of Apr '17 and deliveries to dealers would follow sometime in May or early June.

The specs for the new model year start to appear end Feb or early March.

Driver Dave Jan 31st, 2017 17:43

Agreed Lexman8, we tried to order our car in mid/late Feb last year but the Factory would not accept the order as they were changing over to the MY17 models. Had to wait about a week.

Getting hold of any spec changes is a different matter - the dealers usually have a idea fairly early in March but getting anything from form Volvo is like getting blood from a stone.

Even when we collected our car in July Volvo UK Customer Service were still sending out MY16 brochures/pride lists though they were available to download.

NandM Jan 31st, 2017 17:54

Does anyone feel/think there may be something similar to the MY16 to MY17 change e.g. powerpulse?

SwissXC90 Jan 31st, 2017 18:20

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Originally Posted by NandM (Post 2229483)
Does anyone feel/think there may be something similar to the MY16 to MY17 change e.g. powerpulse?

I think there will be a PowerPulseV2 with double the power, 21 inch wheels and a configurable turbo blowoff valve where you can program the loudness of the valve on the touch screen.

Plus an electronically controlled welded diff for drifting.

Settings will be saved per ignition key.

Razer Jan 31st, 2017 18:33

Loving the idea, have you thought of a career at Volvo? :lightbulb:

NickHoward Jan 31st, 2017 18:39

Do you think there will be much of a change for the V90 (considering I placed my order today!).

Ultimately, I wanted it before April 1st, so I wouldn't have gone for a MY18 anyway.

SwissXC90 Jan 31st, 2017 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickHoward (Post 2229505)
Do you think there will be much of a change for the V90.

YES

Reasoning for my answer:
Every production year manufacturers update their vehicles
(What exactly they will update they do not release in advance)

NickHoward Jan 31st, 2017 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissXC90 (Post 2229557)
YES

Reasoning for my answer:
Every production year manufacturers update their vehicles
(What exactly they will update they do not release in advance)

The reason I ask is simply due to the "newness" of the V90 - it's not exactly been open to orders for long.

gaby Feb 1st, 2017 13:21

The MY2018 pricelists of the V90(CC) and S90 are already on Volvo's website of Belgium and The Netherlands.
However, the XC90 pricelist is still for MY2017.

Torshen Feb 1st, 2017 13:53

Following as it looks like my car's going to be in one of the early MY18 production weeks now.

NandM Feb 1st, 2017 14:05

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Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2229810)
Following as it looks like my car's going to be in one of the early MY18 production weeks now.

Was just about to reply in your other post, but thought I'd check in here first. Not sure what the forums rules say, but are you able to divulge which dealership you have gone with?

Torshen Feb 1st, 2017 15:34

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Originally Posted by NandM (Post 2229816)
Was just about to reply in your other post, but thought I'd check in here first. Not sure what the forums rules say, but are you able to divulge which dealership you have gone with?

Drive The Deal say in their T&Cs not to talk about which dealer once they've put you in touch, I presume it could pose some kind of risk to their operation if it was out there publicly so fair enough, they got me a discount so I'll honour my side of the bargain there and I won't say publicly.

Of course if you and I were to be having some kind of private conversation that wasn't seen by anyone and wouldn't ever show up in any Google search results then who knows what topics we might discuss.

Exsee90 Feb 2nd, 2017 14:13

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Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2229854)
Drive The Deal say in their T&Cs not to talk about which dealer once they've put you in touch, I presume it could pose some kind of risk to their operation if it was out there publicly so fair enough, they got me a discount so I'll honour my side of the bargain there and I won't say publicly.

Of course if you and I were to be having some kind of private conversation that wasn't seen by anyone and wouldn't ever show up in any Google search results then who knows what topics we might discuss.

Downside if ordering through them is you have to collect the car from who knows where, I've used other brokers previously and dealers always deliver, I am going through a local dealer this time in the end, partly because of problems I was reading about would be easier to address locally but hope for 100% problem free car :thumbs_up:

Torshen Feb 2nd, 2017 14:22

My dealer will deliver if I want, both for free (putting miles on the car) and for a fee (on the back of a transporter) but I actually want to go and collect and get the experience / first drive myself. Will go with a mate and have an overnight stay / night out into the bargain, make a mini road trip out of it.

I must admit I'm a little worried about having to correct any issues that might arise with the dealer being a fair distance away, but I'm hoping nothing that serious crops up, and collecting in person gives me a chance to inspect before driving away.

aab203 Feb 2nd, 2017 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2230279)
My dealer will deliver if I want, both for free (putting miles on the car) and for a fee (on the back of a transporter) but I actually want to go and collect and get the experience / first drive myself. Will go with a mate and have an overnight stay / night out into the bargain, make a mini road trip out of it.

I must admit I'm a little worried about having to correct any issues that might arise with the dealer being a fair distance away, but I'm hoping nothing that serious crops up, and collecting in person gives me a chance to inspect before driving away.

I think we probably got the car from the same place - as I also looked at a quote from DTD which turned out to be the dealer I was already dealing with through Carwow.

I, like you, opted to go and collect the car as I wanted to see it in person. I was pretty nervous with the idea of driving it back but had fun playing around with Pilot Assist, which I have since yet to use back in London!

I haven't had a need to take it in yet, but I am also in that position of not wanting to return the car to the original dealer just for a service. So when my three month check comes up (pretty soon) I'll probably give one of the London dealers a go and see how it fares.

familymangreg Feb 2nd, 2017 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by aab203 (Post 2230293)
I think we probably got the car from the same place - as I also looked at a quote from DTD which turned out to be the dealer I was already dealing with through Carwow.

I, like you, opted to go and collect the car as I wanted to see it in person. I was pretty nervous with the idea of driving it back but had fun playing around with Pilot Assist, which I have since yet to use back in London!

I haven't had a need to take it in yet, but I am also in that position of not wanting to return the car to the original dealer just for a service. So when my three month check comes up (pretty soon) I'll probably give one of the London dealers a go and see how it fares.

Its also worth taking the best offer you get from DTD/Carwow etc to your local dealer, if they can come somewhere near close, then it can be worth it, particularly if they are a good dealership.

:wq

aab203 Feb 2nd, 2017 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by familymangreg (Post 2230295)
Its also worth taking the best offer you get from DTD/Carwow etc to your local dealer, if they can come somewhere near close, then it can be worth it, particularly if they are a good dealership.

:wq

I tried that but they were not interested. Their loss (but maybe their gain still with the servicing)

Exsee90 Feb 2nd, 2017 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by aab203 (Post 2230293)
I haven't had a need to take it in yet, but I am also in that position of not wanting to return the car to the original dealer just for a service. So when my three month check comes up (pretty soon) I'll probably give one of the London dealers a go and see how it fares.


There would be no problem getting it serviced or having warrenty work done at any dealer in UK, problems would only arrise if car is delivered with faults such as the road noise issues then I assume you need to give supplying dealer the chance to rectify but if collecting anything like than can be spotted on test drive

chrisrixy Feb 3rd, 2017 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaby (Post 2229792)
The MY2018 pricelists of the V90(CC) and S90 are already on Volvo's website of Belgium and The Netherlands.
However, the XC90 pricelist is still for MY2017.

Well - that implies no major changes for the S/V90 range for MY18, but there could still be changes for the XC90.

I also wonder if volvo will respond to the concerns about diesel and bring the XC90 T5 to the UK - it's available elsewhere in RHD (Japan) so it should be an option.

Maybe the S/V90 range will also see a more options as while we are currently restricted to D4 / D5 choice - the T5, T6, D3 and T8 are all offered elsewhere.

Paul Wildsmith Feb 3rd, 2017 09:30

If you're eligible for the Volvo Affinity scheme, that will give a discount far in excess of likes of DTD/Carwow (in my experience now, just about to order a S90).

Torshen Feb 3rd, 2017 09:41

How would I know if I was eligible for the Affinity scheme? Is it for buying outright or just for leasing/finance?

chrisrixy Feb 3rd, 2017 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2230633)
How would I know if I was eligible for the Affinity scheme? Is it for buying outright or just for leasing/finance?

So long as you have been a member of the eligible organisation (Volve Owners Club or others) for 6 months I think the discounts are available however you buy.

Torshen Feb 3rd, 2017 10:02

Cheers, definitely worth knowing for the future.

chrisrixy Feb 3rd, 2017 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Wildsmith (Post 2230627)
If you're eligible for the Volvo Affinity scheme, that will give a discount far in excess of likes of DTD/Carwow (in my experience now, just about to order a S90).

I'm sure that is true for the s/v90 - as the affinity deal is 10% discount + £1200 (s90) / £300 (v90) off + FOC metallic paint.

It is not nearly so generous on the XC90 - and DTD etc were cheaper when I checked. However the dealer I used near enough matched DTD - and offered much quicker delivery.

Lexman8 Feb 3rd, 2017 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisrixy (Post 2230612)
I also wonder if volvo will respond to the concerns about diesel and bring the XC90 T5 to the UK - it's available elsewhere in RHD (Japan) so it should be an option.

Right now, Volvo UK and its dealers are able to sell most of the XC90s they can can get hold of so introducing cheaper engine variants, whether T5 or D4, will not happen until demand for the existing high value and high margin cars starts to wane.

I think it will happen but the timing will be entirely down to market forces.

gaby Feb 3rd, 2017 12:58

The T5 isn't cheaper than the D5, at least not in Belgium.

John Laidlaw Feb 8th, 2017 23:25

Kind of bad news- my dealer hasn't been able to get a MY17 car anywhere in the U.K. And they say Volvo have now closed MY17 production...if I want my order to stand it's to be a MY18 car and September delivery!
Now I'm waiting to see if they'll match the personal lease deal we agreed on that and should hear tomorrow
No idea what differences there are....

soupytwister Feb 9th, 2017 00:47

Try Jim Wood at volvo in Poole. He's got a pile of new MY17 XC90's in stock according to my link on CarWow.

Ditto Simon Ross and Satyan Parmar at Endeavour Volvo in London.

My local dealer told me "yeah, there's nothing in the country" before Christmas. When i tried some other dealers, there seemed to be plenty. You just have to be flexible on spec given they're already in the dealers.

soupytwister Feb 9th, 2017 00:52

I managed to order one today for March delivery to my spec. Try CarWow - register on it, and submit what you want - the dealers come back to you within the day to say what they have.

On the email i got from CarWow today, I can see quite a few Inscriptions, a few R-Designs, and a T8 - all brand new and sitting at dealers. Try it....can only say no!

I was also sitting in the dealer in Edinburgh last Saturday, and he was showing me slots for May/June delivery which they had, so i tend to feel different dealers spin different stories for reasons unknown to me!! Volvo don't shut their production line down for 6 months!! I can't see how you're looking at Sep delivery given it's only february!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by John Laidlaw (Post 2233358)
Kind of bad news- my dealer hasn't been able to get a MY17 car anywhere in the U.K. And they say Volvo have now closed MY17 production...if I want my order to stand it's to be a MY18 car and September delivery!
Now I'm waiting to see if they'll match the personal lease deal we agreed on that and should hear tomorrow
No idea what differences there are....


NandM Feb 9th, 2017 07:33

Bells in Bedford May also be worth a shout as they told me they have a fair few.

NickHoward Feb 9th, 2017 09:10

As others have said, it depends on the dealer.

I spoke to 3 different deals (who belonged to 3 different groups).

2 of them couldn't order in a new V90 before April, as all of their delivery slots were already in use (worth noting that they had "stock" coming in, which had already been built/being built - But I couldn't specify the exact spec).

Whereas the dealer who belonged to a big group (Marshalls) had some spare "slots" - Where they effectively order the trim level, and if no one comes and buys it beforehand, it'll just be shipped to them as stock, but if someone like me comes along and wants to change the spec (yet still have it delivered soon), they have the availability to do so.

The dealer explained that Volvo ask them to order how many they think they'll sell. This then "reserves" them the slots, which can be changed up to around 8 weeks before delivery is due.

So.... Even though the one dealer is saying September (which is possibly because they haven't ordered many, yet sold more than they thought they would), there will be plenty of dealers who could get you one (either a similar spec which has already been ordered in), or a spec to your liking, well before September!

Torshen Feb 9th, 2017 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Laidlaw (Post 2233358)
Kind of bad news- my dealer hasn't been able to get a MY17 car anywhere in the U.K. And they say Volvo have now closed MY17 production...if I want my order to stand it's to be a MY18 car and September delivery!

My dealer informed me last week that my order (placed at start of Jan) was going to be held back until the MY18 batches begin getting allocated. However he still thinks late May / early June for delivery which isn't very different to the mid May that he initially thought.

Obviously it's just his guess at present and maybe your dealer has different factors in play, but still very surprised to hear September.

soupytwister Feb 9th, 2017 10:28

Difficult isn't it. I don't think "held back" is the correct term - as I said in another thread, I doubt the production line shuts down for a month to tool up for a few changes. Dealer presumably just didn't have a slot booked until May. My order went in today, and will be with me earlier than that as the dealer had obviously pre-booked some slots.

However, if it goes into April, I'd rather mine was "held back" to at least counter the increased VED by having next years model :) I know that won't happen as it will already be in build/built!

VED thing is just plain annoying....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2233455)
My dealer informed me last week that my order (placed at start of Jan) was going to be held back until the MY18 batches begin getting allocated. However he still thinks late May / early June for delivery which isn't very different to the mid May that he initially thought.

Obviously it's just his guess at present and maybe your dealer has different factors in play, but still very surprised to hear September.


Torshen Feb 9th, 2017 10:35

True, held back probably is a bit misleading in this context. But it does feel like there's perhaps a bit of a longer delay before my order getting accepted at the factory.

EG if I'd been in the very last week of MY17 production I might have expected to hear that the order has been accepted / assigned a production week already. But if I'm a week later, in the very first week of MY18 production, I won't be hearing until March. So while the actual build/delivery dates might only slip by one week, the notification of order acceptance does slip more, it seems.

Of course I'm guessing that the people in weeks 2, 3, 4 (etc) of MY18 prouction probably hear around the same time as the people in week 1, so the system quickly comes back into sync. It's just those early weeks that seem to have a bit of a wait for order acceptance.

soupytwister Feb 9th, 2017 10:43

I guess we're all guessing :)

Anyone know the Production Manager? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torshen (Post 2233471)
True, held back probably is a bit misleading in this context. But it does feel like there's perhaps a bit of a longer delay before my order getting accepted at the factory.

EG if I'd been in the very last week of MY17 production I might have expected to hear that the order has been accepted / assigned a production week already. But if I'm a week later, in the very first week of MY18 production, I won't be hearing until March. So while the actual build/delivery dates might only slip by one week, the notification of order acceptance does slip more, it seems.

Of course I'm guessing that the people in weeks 2, 3, 4 (etc) of MY18 prouction probably hear around the same time as the people in week 1, so the system quickly comes back into sync. It's just those early weeks that seem to have a bit of a wait for order acceptance.


familymangreg Feb 9th, 2017 11:29

I'd be a little bit wary if I were ordering a MY18 vehicle without seeing the spec sheet. There were some subtle changes in spec between MY16 and MY17. If my memory serves me correctly, these included removal of active bending lights on Momentum, InteliSafe becoming standard across the range, etc.. I can't remember full details, but I know my wife and I compared my16 and 17 in details and found several small but significant changes.

:wq

Lexman8 Feb 9th, 2017 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by familymangreg (Post 2233498)
If my memory serves me correctly, these included removal of active bending lights on Momentum, InteliSafe becoming standard across the range, etc..

Also: D5 engine gained PowerPulse and Drive Mode Select and a spare wheel became standard. Factory fitted Linear Walnut option was removed (but is available for dealer-fit).

There was price increase in the move from MY16 to MY17 but as I would've ordered the additional standard kit anyway, I actually paid less for my MY17 than I would've for a '16.

gaby Feb 9th, 2017 13:11

My dealer told me that if a car that was ordered turns out to be made in the next MY having different specs,
Volvo still tries to match the spec sheet of the order. However, I don't have any proof that this is indeed so,
but it will almost certainly not always be possible.

neon Feb 9th, 2017 18:03

I have not seen a new XC90 in my dealers now for the last couple of months.

Chris N Feb 9th, 2017 19:26

One change I was made aware of today is the leather dash option is no longer available on the R Design.


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