Wanted - Classic Volvo 200 Series
 

Hello

My name is Karl and I am the owner of KGF Classic Cars in Peterborough. I have a particular soft spot for classic Volvo's so if you have an immaculate example for sale please let me know.

Thank you
Karl
www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk
01733 425140

Hey Karl would be interested on your predictions on prices of these? The 260 GLE in manual is very rare. Less left than 262cs.
The GLT seems most popular probably due to availability and spec.

How do you find Practical classics price guide to be in accuracy?

BTW you have some stunning cars in stock I've seen them on Retrorides.
Welcome to VOC too.

Hello Darkslider

Thanks for your message and the compliments on our cars, we're very lucky to work with these machines! In my opinion the 200 series are firmly a modern classic car, even though many examples are still used as trustworthy daily drivers and workhorses! There will certainly be low money examples out there for quite some time to come, but low mileage and low owner cars with history and condition to match will command an inflated premium, particularly the rare models.

We find that the price guides in the classic car publications are often quite far off the mark to be honest!

Best regards.

Still on the lookout for a classic Volvo, so please let me know if you wish to sell yours.

Thank you
Karl
www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk
01733 425140

Do you know where I could get a valuation for my 262C 1979 Auto, its been in restoration for nearly a year and due back in May, I would appreciate any advice on where I could get a valuation. Thanks

Would you be interested in a lhd 242 ?

Hello, thanks for your message. Your best route to getting an accurate valuation is to approach an owners club as nobody knows the cars better! You can also approach your classic car insurer for a valuation from their prospective. Another great source of information would be to look for similar cars on the internet, or perhaps see if any have been auctioned recently - you'll be amazed at what you can find out on the internet within half an hour!

Best of luck!

Hello Dave, yes we could potentially be interested. Please forward further details and your price to sales@kgfclassiccars.co.uk. I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks very much for your advice, greatly appreciated

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4007023091...84.m1555.l2649

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4007023247...84.m1555.l2649

Thanks Pistonpopper, but I can't seem to get the links to work??

Thank you to forum members who have made contact. We appreciate it.

Best regards
Karl
01733 425140
www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk

We've had some great leads from kind forum members. Please keep them coming as we love our classic Volvo's!

As ever we are looking for any classic Volvo!

Thinking of selling? Our proven commission sale or SOR (Sale or Return) program is a great way to utilise and access our professional services and facilities while still maximising the return from your vehicle with minimal hassle, stress and time, If you’d like to take advantage of this then please get in touch for further information. Alternatively If you’d like to move your vehicle on quickly and efficiently with minimal delay then we can make an offer on an outright purchase basis with payment and collection arranged soon after.

Many thank for the continued leads from the VOC members. We recently acquired a truly astonishing 440GLT through a club recommendation and it is currently being enjoyed by our operations manager Steve.

More classic Volvo's wanted please!

Best regards

Karl.

Keen to find more classic Volvo's, clients waiting for genuine enthusiast owned examples!

KGF Classic Cars wants your Volvo!
 

Hi Guys

Great to hear from you when you are thinking of selling.

Thanks
Karl
01733 425140
07976 935046

sales@kgfclassiccars.co.uk

Hello all

We are always looking for classic Volvo's to sell. If you are thinking of selling please get in touch for a hassle free transaction.

Thanks
Karl
01733 425140
07976 935046

sales@kgfclassiccars.co.uk

Happy New Year to all at the VOC.

We would love to work with another classic Volvo, our last being a stunning 440GLT sourced through a member here. Please contact us if you wish to sell your classic Volvo.

Best wishes for the new year.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

I personally don't mind these fishing expeditions by dealers, as I realise getting quality stock is always a challenge. And a tie up could benefit both parties.

However, it would be nice to get an idea of the price range KGF are prepared to offer for an outright buy. Personally, I'm not keen on the 'give us a call and we'll ask you how much you want for it' approach. Negotiating strategy and all that.

As an example, I've a 62,000 late model 240GLT estate (last of the high compression engine, recessed rear window examples - you can work out the year). Silver with black leather. Still has the black covers on the chrome wheel nuts. All original paint. No rust, no dents, no rips in the leather / headlining - nor scuffs on the bumpers

What is the price range you'd offer to buy it? Of course I realise you would need to see it (hence reference to price range) - but lets say it's condition one verging on concours.

Can you give me and others a better idea of what you'd potentially offer?

Nice web site and stock by the way.

Stuart

I'm currently after an estate myself - I have a Volvo 240 saloon, full service history, two owners from new, it's had the front suspension changed to adjustable GAZ GAI inserts, Lesjofors 40mm springs.. Not sure KGF would be interested. Interior is in excellent condition (owned by an elderly single gentleman before me).

It's a daily driver however.. So without it I'd be marooned.

Tim

Hi Tim

Thanks for making contact, you are most welcome to send us details and pictures of your car should you decide to sell. We are always looking for classic Volvo's.

Best regards

Karl
KGF Classic Cars

Actually, should all these requests not be posted via the official traders link?

Admins - I have noticed in the past that requests from all sorts of dealers have been, quite correctly, subject to the forum rules on traders. Surely this sort of request - that this company often posts - should be treated in the same way?

KGF1 have applied for and received Trader status so there is no issue there. As for whether these post should go into the Trader's Offers & Discounts area? Well it's not a generic item they are selling or a discount on their product, they're looking to buy a specific Volvo model so it would seem to make sense to post in the relevant section. However we note your view and will have a discussion to see if there is a better way of doing this.

They are traders trying to cream off the best cars for their own profit -how can that be fair to the enthusiast?

I think most people are aware they are trying to profit from buying up the best examples it's called being in business, but nobody is under any obligation to sell to them just because they have asked!

It's up to the individual to decide if they want to make a private sales, sell into the trade or engage someone like KGF1 to sell on commission on their behalf.

Karl will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he has worked as selling agent to help sellers achieve the best offer for their vehicles.

I have noticed more 240's appearing on eBay, Autotrader etc for upwards of £5K. £10K is not unheard of - however these dont sell quickly.

In light of this it is not surprising that specialist dealers are becoming more interested. They would be daft not to.

For those of us who regard them as workhorses and daily drivers this process further hastens 'the end' as they slowly but surely move firmly into the 'classics' camp.

Still quite a few cheap 700 and 900 series about though. When I have worn out my current daily driver (1992 240 Estate - which I average 1K per week in, so about another 2-3 years I think) then I think I will move over to one of these. A much cheaper alternative. Always good to keep a nice 240 as a second car of course!

Just my 2p's worth

Am I the only person who thinks it would be helpful if KGF added to their forum 'fishing' post by including the price range for an outright purchase of a 200/300/700 series etc car? After all, it's not that difficult for them - they know what margin they need to make and what the current market value is. Ok, they'll need to differentiate between different models etc which will require some work. They can always add the rider 'we will pay more for truly exceptional low mileage examples' to give themselves room to manoeuvre. Why? Because it will result in a forum discussion which should result in potential sellers becoming better informed prior to negotiating a sale.

Currently, it's too one sided for me (I'm waiting for a response to my earlier post, but I'm not holding my breath).

To my mind, there's a danger VOC, via the forum, could be perceived as not acting in the members best interest if club members responding to forum 'fishing' requests are under informed and sell too cheaply.

Better the trader is requested to provide more information, as a condition of posting on the forum, than VOC officials spend more of their spare time maintaining an up to date price quide.

Last from me on this subject.

I just don't get this forum. One minute sellers are getting shot down for asking too high a price for a 240 with comments like I only paid £500 for mine and they are not worth any more than £1000 etc etc. Then we have a company come along looking for classics in top condition to sell on. I am not aware of a single person receiving a low offer for a car from KGF.

They manage to get higher prices due to presentation and offering a warranty. The will also sell cars on a commission basis. There is no pressure for anyone to sell to them. Selling to a dealer can be a good way to get a quick hassle free sale. Will you get the best price well clearly no but also on the other hand you are very unlikely to get the price the dealer does.

I don't think they can give a set price range for every model as price will vary with exact condition, millage, history model year and even the exact variation of the model. Everyone's opinion of what mint is will vary, I have seen rough cars described as mint and some cars that look like they have just come out the showroom being described as only tidy.

It would be nice to have some feedback from someone who has sold a car to KGF just to confirm what they are like to deal with.

There's no doubt in my mind that any club or forum member who wished to sell their car will be better off selling via a website such as carandclassic.co.uk, rather than either sell to a dealer or even allow a sale on consignment - that is if they are not successful in selling on this forum.

The majority of Volvo's (200s, 300s, 700s) do not command very high prices in the market at the moment* - for example, what price would a truly immaculate 244 or 245 GLT command? Let's suggest a range of £2000 to £3500, if this is the case (and it's just an illustration) then a trader would want to buy that car for no more that £1000 to £2000 I would guess.

Yes, and someone stated the obvious that they're in business! Sell to a dealer and you're asking for a mugging. If a dealer wants to buy a car then they can surely search like anyone else would?

And wouldn't you rather buy your next classic Volvo from the owner rather than a dealer?

Jon
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

N.B to take up Dai's comment I think it is actually quite easy to give some price indicators.

Hi Stuart

Yes you are right, getting good quality stock to sell is a challenge! We find that enthusiasts of a particular marque and club members tend to own prime examples and the ones we like to buy!

Price guides are helpful and there are many found in the back of classic car magazines but we value each car on an individual basis and look to make an offer based on a good chat and personal inspection. If the owner is happy with the price then we proceed with the purchase in a simple, straight forward manner.

Thank you for the positive feedback on our website and stock!

Karl

Hi Jon

Thank you for your observations. You are right, sometimes the owner of a cherished classic car would prefer to sell privately and that selling your car to KGF Classic Cars may not suit everyone for a number of reasons which could include:

1. Not knowing who the next owner of your car is
2. Feeling you have sold the car for less than it is worth
3. You enjoy selling cars!
4. Not agreeing with the principal of a business earning a profit

There are a number of owners who sell cars to us and some of the reasons for this are:

1. Avoiding dealing with potential buyers who do not proceed with the purchase or never had any intention of buying the car!
2. Strangers viewing the car at your home address
3. Avoiding uninsured test drives
4. Avoiding the money scams
5. Lack of time

Another option is our Commission Sale service if you are not content with our cash offer. I found this forum post from a customer we sold a car for which will give you a useful insight into the concerns and the eventual outcome.

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/he...opic80437.html

To conclude, we love cars and our customers normally love cars too! (Please see our Facebook page to help prove this! Here is the link - http://www.facebook.com/KGFClassiccars

It would be great to hear from some Volvo owners.

Best regards

Karl
01733 425140
07976 935046

Our latest copy of the Volvo Driver magazine has just hit the doormat and got us thinking, it's about time we had another classic Volvo. Please get in touch if you wish to sell yours.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

I agree with your comments. I haven't sold to KGF but have sold a number of cars to Classic and Sportscar in Malton East Yorks, no problems. I get what I want for the car money wise, the dealer makes his profit and the new owner / buyer is happy with the price he pays on the sale details. I don't have a parade of time wasters turning up at home or not turning up at all and all that hassle, plus any come back on items has been sorted by the dealer if any.
We undervalue 240s as enthusiasts , .... that's just my opinion.

Hello

We are still looking for another classic Volvo! If you have dug yours out for the spring/summer season and think you may wish to sell, please get in touch.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

Hello

Our recently sold Volvo 144 Grand Luxe has reignited our love for classic Volvo's! Please do get in touch should you wish to sell yours.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

We are currently enjoying the use of our Volvo 760GLE Estate, having covered over 180,000 miles it's still going strong having been serviced at a Volvo main dealer on average every 6 months! The history file is incredible.

We're always looking for classic Volvo's, so please do get in touch should you wish to sell yours.

Best regards

Karl
01733 425140

Used car salesmen
 

A few years ago I misguidedly went to look at a new Japanese sports car as part of my mid life crisis version 1. The poor salesman had a pretend cold in an attempt to gain empathy. He kept going on about how poorly he felt - but made a miracle recovery when rumbled - how peculiar. Anyone else?

Car dealers - modern and classic.
 

Salesmen ? Usually uninformed, lacking passion, often without social skills. Just look at how some cars are presented by dealers, and some of the hyperbole:..."all steel welded integral construction..."!!!

Jon