Volvo Owners Club Forum

Volvo Owners Club Forum (https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/index.php)
-   S60 & V60 '18> / XC60 '17> / S90 & V90 '16> / XC90 '15> General (https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=201)
-   -   Volvo hits all time sales high (https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=290268)

anotherv60 Jan 4th, 2019 09:05

Volvo hits all time sales high
 
Volvo are on a role sales wise, they have sold more than 600,000 vehicles in a year for the first time - 643000 in fact. XC60 sold almost 190K units, the S90 is now the highest selling Volvo salon of all time, which is impressive given how it has been on sale for 3 years!

https://www.media.volvocars.com/glob...ales-milestone

Looks likely 2019 will be another record year as S60 and V60 sales will increase - the New V60 is already selling twice the number of the previous model and Volvo have now managed to double Xc40 production.

The VOC discount for 2019 is also much more appealing, some amazing discounts on the 90 & 60 series vehicles.

I Feel Old Jan 4th, 2019 09:17

The Volvo story is certainly impressive of recent years. I'm curious as to where the additional buyers are coming from. Whether from particular brands (Audi, BMW), or equally across all brands?

I guess much of the increased sales will be in China with European sales increases potentially being more modest?

SignumGB Jan 4th, 2019 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Feel Old (Post 2481364)
The Volvo story is certainly impressive of recent years. I'm curious as to where the additional buyers are coming from. Whether from particular brands (Audi, BMW), or equally across all brands?

I guess much of the increased sales will be in China with European sales increases potentially being more modest?


We moved to Volvo for safety reasons as we have a toddler and space for a dog. Posted a photo of the Volvo showing why they are worth the money safety wise on another thread.

nu11eaf Jan 4th, 2019 09:52

I fear that once the diesel and petrol only cars have gone and only the much more expensive hybrid cars are on offer sales may slow down, in the UK anyway, especially for the XC90 and no more subsidies available, unless prices are reduced.

anotherv60 Jan 4th, 2019 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Feel Old (Post 2481364)
The Volvo story is certainly impressive of recent years. I'm curious as to where the additional buyers are coming from. Whether from particular brands (Audi, BMW), or equally across all brands?

I guess much of the increased sales will be in China with European sales increases potentially being more modest?

I don't know how you find out where the sales are coming from - I guess Volvo might have a better understanding of that.

China sales up 14%, European up 6.4%, American up 20.6%.

anotherv60 Jan 4th, 2019 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by nu11eaf (Post 2481379)
I fear that once the diesel and petrol only cars have gone and only the much more expensive hybrid cars are on offer sales may slow down, in the UK anyway, especially for the XC90 and no more subsidies available, unless prices are reduced.

I think everyone is hoping that hybrid and battery technology drops in price so overall its cost neutral - I'm fairly dubious this will happen, If there is an opportunity to increase prices then why wouldn't they assuming sales volumes hold up.

I Feel Old Jan 4th, 2019 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by anotherv60 (Post 2481383)
China sales up 14%, European up 6.4%, American up 20.6%.

Thanks anotherv60, as anticipated China shows a significant growth and Europe not so much. The big surprise there is the US, which of course throws a few different marks in.

In the face of what I believe is a fall in overall car sales even a 6.4% growth must represent a significant number coming across from other brands.

Having just gone through the process I concluded that like for like Volvo give a little more for the same money. However if growth continues I'd suggest this will narrow.

Lexman8 Jan 4th, 2019 13:51

The US figures will have been helped by the opening last year of Volvo's new factory in South Carolina to make the S60.

It will also produce the new XC90 in 2021.

Grumpybri Jan 4th, 2019 19:18

With my S90 I have come from a Seat Leon. Never looked at a Volvo as an option for a car until I hired a XC90 on holiday and was smitten. It was the comfort and technology that got me looking at the Volvo range.

vman99 Jan 4th, 2019 20:11

I'm Coming from another Brand
 
Hi, at the moment I am trying to find out as much as I can about the new V60, with a view to purchase in the not too distant future.

The reason is, my daily ride is no longer available in the UK.

( Honda Accord 8th generation 2.2 idtec diesel EX Tourer [Estate])

Pete.

steadvex Jan 4th, 2019 20:43

i'm mixed about volvo's current sales

on one hand its great, volvo doing well, on the other I feel quality will be going downhill as mass production ramps up and measures are made to cut corners. Not saying it will happen, just I have little faith whenever a company gets too big

although they seem to still be on track with safety, its just a shame that purchase prices have skyrocketed.

Quacker Jan 5th, 2019 01:08

One factor that has limited European sales has been the VW dieselgate affair, which has hit diesel sales drastically. You might imagine that buyers would just switch to petrol cars but that is not entirely so. Many just put off changing, especially in Volvo's market sector which is less reliant than most on fleet sales. Volvo's sales success is remarkable in a shrinking market and in contrast to JLR sales, which are even more diesel-focussed.
Not many people want a petrol large car and many are reluctant to buy diesel because of the threats of taxes if visiting or living in towns. That even when modern direct injection petrol engines have the same issue with particulates and particulate filters as diesels and where modern diesel NOx emissions are unbelievably low, at least from the manufacturers with some moral and ethical standards.

MikeGMT Jan 5th, 2019 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by steadvex (Post 2481593)
i'm mixed about volvo's current sales

on one hand its great, volvo doing well, on the other I feel quality will be going downhill as mass production ramps up and measures are made to cut corners.

although they seem to still be on track with safety, its just a shame that purchase prices have skyrocketed.

Having to seriously start looking as my car is due for replacement later this year, or buy my current car.

At the moment I think Volvo have a tremendous line up and arguably have some of the best looking cars in the market. Problem I have now is that the cars have gone up a rung or two of the ladder and as you say the prices have gone up too. Having got a few quotes in November I would be looking at a XC40 in the price range I paid for my XC60 R-Des. Test drove the new '40' but I must be in the minority as I didn't particularly like it.

Now Volvo are up there with the 'big boys' as I said to the wife I may as well have a look to see what they have to offer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quacker (Post 2481654)
One factor that has limited European sales has been the VW dieselgate affair, which has hit diesel sales drastically. You might imagine that buyers would just switch to petrol cars but that is not entirely so. Many just put off changing, especially in Volvo's market sector which is less reliant than most on fleet sales. Volvo's sales success is remarkable in a shrinking market and in contrast to JLR sales, which are even more diesel-focussed.
Not many people want a petrol large car and many are reluctant to buy diesel because of the threats of taxes if visiting or living in towns. That even when modern direct injection petrol engines have the same issue with particulates and particulate filters as diesels and where modern diesel NOx emissions are unbelievably low, at least from the manufacturers with some moral and ethical standards.

I'm almost certain my next car will be another diesel, the scaremongering doesn't really put me off. I just like the torquey nature the diesels have.

Lojo Jan 5th, 2019 09:37

I’m glad I helped

simonjedrake Jan 5th, 2019 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGMT (Post 2481659)
Having to seriously start looking as my car is due for replacement later this year, or buy my current car.

At the moment I think Volvo have a tremendous line up and arguably have some of the best looking cars in the market. Problem I have now is that the cars have gone up a rung or two of the ladder and as you say the prices have gone up too. Having got a few quotes in November I would be looking at a XC40 in the price range I paid for my XC60 R-Des. Test drove the new '40' but I must be in the minority as I didn't particularly like it.
.

Have you checked "drivethedeal" for prices?

MikeGMT Jan 5th, 2019 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonjedrake (Post 2481890)
Have you checked "drivethedeal" for prices?

Had a look on DtD and CarWow etc, at the moment I'm not desperate as I've got until September if I don't change sooner. Although I will need to factor in the waiting times if I decide on a factory build. In bit of a quandary at the moment, new or nearly new and wether to dip my toe into personal leasing which is something I have never done before. At the moment I'm quite fancying a V60CC although I have not seen one in the flesh yet. Hmm, trip to the dealer methinks. When I had my car serviced in September they gave me a V60 Momentum and that drove well, quite impressed.

anotherv60 Jan 5th, 2019 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonjedrake (Post 2481890)
Have you checked "drivethedeal" for prices?

Also the VOC discount has improved significantly for Q1 2019.

SuffolkBoy Jan 6th, 2019 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGMT (Post 2481915)
Had a look on DtD and CarWow etc, at the moment I'm not desperate as I've got until September if I don't change sooner. Although I will need to factor in the waiting times if I decide on a factory build. In bit of a quandary at the moment, new or nearly new and wether to dip my toe into personal leasing which is something I have never done before. At the moment I'm quite fancying a V60CC although I have not seen one in the flesh yet. Hmm, trip to the dealer methinks. When I had my car serviced in September they gave me a V60 Momentum and that drove well, quite impressed.

I am in a similar position to you Mike, my car is up for renewal at the end of October - it is on a 2 year personal lease, the first time I had gone with that method of “buying” a car.

I am not sure what to go for either, I like the look of the V60CC, but the last time I looked, there was on the “base” model, no Pro version.

I am quite taken by the V90CC too, although that is a large vehicle!

I think a lot will depend on monthly prices when I come to look in the summer.

MikeGMT Jan 6th, 2019 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuffolkBoy (Post 2481978)
I am in a similar position to you Mike, my car is up for renewal at the end of October - it is on a 2 year personal lease, the first time I had gone with that method of “buying” a car.

I am not sure what to go for either, I like the look of the V60CC, but the last time I looked, there was on the “base” model, no Pro version.

I am quite taken by the V90CC too, although that is a large vehicle!

I think a lot will depend on monthly prices when I come to look in the summer.

How did you find the leasing process S_B, is it something you would consider again? If the circumstances were favourable. As I said previously it's something I have never done before as I have always gone the usual route with finance, PCP, HP etc; so never technically own the car as I then start the process over again at the end of the term.

Had a look on the configurator today and still no Pro version for the V60 CC, plenty of option packs to go at though.

V90 CC looks really nice, and as you say it is a big car but you can get a Pro spec.

Mike

SuffolkBoy Jan 6th, 2019 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGMT (Post 2482135)
How did you find the leasing process S_B, is it something you would consider again? If the circumstances were favourable. As I said previously it's something I have never done before as I have always gone the usual route with finance, PCP, HP etc; so never technically own the car as I then start the process over again at the end of the term.

Had a look on the configurator today and still no Pro version for the V60 CC, plenty of option packs to go at though.

V90 CC looks really nice, and as you say it is a big car but you can get a Pro spec.

Mike

Hi Mike, I found the process really easy and will definitely be looking at going down the same route again - I like changing my car regularly so this is a good way of doing it for me - the Dealer recommended it after having a PCP deal for the previous XC60.
I have a personal number plate and decided not to transfer it to the car as Santander (Lease Company) charge £50 administration fee to put on and £50 to remove plate 2 months before the end of the lease.
Other than that, I don’t see any real disadvantages for me opting to use this method again.
If you bank with Santander, they offer personal lease deals for Volvos on an 18 month term with no deposit, definitely worth looking at as they use your local Dealer to supply the vehicle.

MikeGMT Jan 6th, 2019 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuffolkBoy (Post 2482158)
Hi Mike, I found the process really easy and will definitely be looking at going down the same route again - I like changing my car regularly so this is a good way of doing it for me - the Dealer recommended it after having a PCP deal for the previous XC60.
I have a personal number plate and decided not to transfer it to the car as Santander (Lease Company) charge £50 administration fee to put on and £50 to remove plate 2 months before the end of the lease.
Other than that, I don’t see any real disadvantages for me opting to use this method again.
If you bank with Santander, they offer personal lease deals for Volvos on an 18 month term with no deposit, definitely worth looking at as they use your local Dealer to supply the vehicle.

Thanks for the feedback S_B, seems like something I will definitely have to look into. Good point about Santander, although I don't bank with them my last car and current XC60 is financed through them. Looks like you had a trouble free lease term. I quite like the idea of still being with the local dealership.

With my current car I got a good discount plus some more off the price using the Affinity scheme, but at the moment I don't think the discounts are anything like they used to be.

Think I'll have to get the abacus out.

anotherv60 Jan 7th, 2019 10:45

SMMT Figures out today for 2018. Volvo up 9.1% to 50,319 units sold equating to 2.13% market share.

Overall UK vehicle sales declined by 7% in 2018. Audi down 18%, BMW down 2%, Mercedes down 5%.

Volvo have a similar market share to Honda, MINI and SEAT.

Philip Fisher Jan 7th, 2019 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGMT (Post 2482169)
Thanks for the feedback S_B, seems like something I will definitely have to look into. Good point about Santander, although I don't bank with them my last car and current XC60 is financed through them. Looks like you had a trouble free lease term. I quite like the idea of still being with the local dealership.

With my current car I got a good discount plus some more off the price using the Affinity scheme, but at the moment I don't think the discounts are anything like they used to be.

Think I'll have to get the abacus out.

Affinity deals better this quarter than last. V90CC particularly good. Take the zero percent finance and get near enough 20 percent off list for a V90CC. XC90 looking more like 14 percent.

anotherv60 Jan 7th, 2019 11:09

Looks like 2018 wasn’t just a sales success in the UK - look at the list of awards Volvo picked up in 2018.

https://www.theautochannel.com/news/...cess-2018.html

SuffolkBoy Jan 7th, 2019 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Fisher (Post 2482359)
Affinity deals better this quarter than last. V90CC particularly good. Take the zero percent finance and get near enough 20 percent off list for a V90CC. XC90 looking more like 14 percent.

I have just had an email from my Dealer offering £8637 off a new XC90 Momentum with a £1000 deposit contribution on a PCP deal and £8987 off the R-Design model - haven’t worked out the % discount, but seems around 15%.

These vehicles need to be registered by 31 March, so could be existing stock models and you have be an existing customer of the Dealer in ownership of a Volvo.

Just wondering if this deal is also being offered by other Forum Members Dealers?

Lexman8 Jan 7th, 2019 17:01

Drive The Deal are offering £13k off (pipeline) stock Audi Q7s conditional on taking PCP at 4.9% with delivery before 31 March.

It equates to 23% off lesser-spec and 20% off higher-spec models.

(And no, I'm not starting a discussion about Audis... :regular_smile: )

anotherv60 Jan 7th, 2019 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuffolkBoy (Post 2482482)
I have just had an email from my Dealer offering £8637 off a new XC90 Momentum with a £1000 deposit contribution on a PCP deal and £8987 off the R-Design model - haven’t worked out the % discount, but seems around 15%.

These vehicles need to be registered by 31 March, so could be existing stock models and you have be an existing customer of the Dealer in ownership of a Volvo.

Just wondering if this deal is also being offered by other Forum Members Dealers?

The Affinity discount is for new factory ordered vehicles before 31st March . The example through the scheme for the Volvo Owners club is £7392 off with the £1000 deposit for an XC90 D5 Momentum, but remember you also get any paint colour free with the affinity discount.

If I have done the maths correct the affinity discount off an R Design XC90 D5 AWD is £9298.96 with metallic paint including the £1000 deposit.

Sometimes you can combine this affinity discount with a volvo loyalty discount, but I haven't seen any of those around this year :tounge_smile:

The biggest discounts are on the V90CC and the S90. There is also a significant discount on the new V60.

anotherv60 Jan 21st, 2019 12:33

Interesting article in the times today interviewing the Volvo UK Managing Director, it seems the 50,000 cars Volvo sold in the UK was supply limited not demand limited, they are trying to get enough production slots from Volvo cars corp. for 80,000 vehicles per year, apparently the XC40 has so many back orders they could double sales!


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:18.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.