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rsymes2k Mar 9th, 2018 09:16

Gearbox Woes (Sigh)
 
Hey everyone, looking for a bit of advice with regards to gearbox...

2004(54) XC90 D5 159k miles with the 5 speed box Aisin Warner...

It's got a very lump down shift from 3-2 and sometimes 2-1, also sometimes hesitates shifting 2-3.

Transmission service light is on too... I've just been driving it as we have no choice really.

Local gearbox specialist said the "gearbox is toast, oil is burnt" £2.5k to replace.

I've had the oil replaced previously @129k miles, did the software upgrades too.. The gearbox specialist said doing the valve body was pointless and won't solve the issue..

So needless to say i'm a bit confused as to what to do, the car isn't even worth the cost of repair?

Is it feasible to buy an ebay gearbox and fit it? Should I try something else? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Rob

gmonag Mar 9th, 2018 09:41

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I would definately try a full flush oil change. Was the last change a full flush or just a drain and fill? If so that will only change about 25% of the oil.

It is not difficult to DIY. The method is commonly known as the "gibbons" method after a user who posted it a few years ago. It is however, the same method advocated by Volvo with a tweek or two.

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colinbos Mar 9th, 2018 11:12

What you have to remember is, the gearbox specialist is all about turnover and profit to pay wages and overheads. Don't get me wrong, what would we do without them ? But a good old fashioned lets not spend any money and try and fix this method is what is best, in my opinion.

gmonag is right, A good flush and fill with in spec fluids has proven to do wonders on these gearboxes. It may not completely cure yours (it may need the valve body doing too) but its a cheaper good start. And remember, a gearbox adaptation will be needed after, won't it ?

galloot633 Mar 9th, 2018 12:31

Mine was doing bad up shifts , third to fourth ( not as bad as yours though ) I did a gearbox flush , which in my case made no improvement , so in desperation I added a litre of Lucas auto transmission additive , this did make a difference , the shift is still not as smooth as the other gears , but no more false neutral or " gearbox service messages " . I've since driven about 8k miles with no bad effects , may not cure yours but for 12 quid worth a try
Dave

Danielpsmith Mar 9th, 2018 13:39

My gearbox was your playing up and after changing the oil it was still no good, so after speaking to lots of gearbox specialists only one said try the valve body and if it didn’t work I only had to pay the difference to totally refurb the box, so had the valve body done and it was like a new car, they said to me it depends on how long it’s been driven while playing up on if it needs totally refurbing.

gmonag Mar 9th, 2018 13:42

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I added a litre of Lucas auto transmission additive
Whoa! I would not use ANYTHING other than quality JWS 3309 in my gearbox. This is not just a lubricant but the working fluid in the box. Don't use additives or any other grade.

galloot633 Mar 9th, 2018 17:48

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Originally Posted by gmonag (Post 2378583)
Whoa! I would not use ANYTHING other than quality JWS 3309 in my gearbox. This is not just a lubricant but the working fluid in the box. Don't use additives or any other grade.

Yes, I'd heard all manner of scaremongery off plenty of sources with no experience but plenty of suspicion , autobox forums are full , sure manufacturers say no to additives , but only because they can't test all of them , all I'm saying , if you've got nothing to loose , why not give something a try ? Mine improved in the first 100 miles and has since run for approx 6-8 k miles with absolutely no side effects , just my experience, I would consider a valve body swap though
Dave

gmonag Mar 9th, 2018 23:21

Well I have flushed my own gearbox at 110k and 160k and both times the gearbox improved noticably.

rsymes2k Mar 20th, 2018 07:02

Hmm not sure what to do now then!! Thing is if I try the drain and flush is it just another £250 wasted? Maybe I should just get rid of the thing!!

The Lucas stuff might be worth a try but yeah, so many horror stories!!

rsymes2k Mar 20th, 2018 07:05

When I drained it last time I jacked one side up in order to get more atf out but didn’t “flush” if you like?


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