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100K+ Oct 3rd, 2015 15:00

Less torque as standard...
 
I recently discovered that the latest D5 engine (215BHP) runs at two torque levels, depending upon transmissions (420Nm and 440Nm) man/Auto.
However each engine has a different code *T11 or *T15. anyone know why the torque difference??
I thought it might be the clutch could not take the extra torque, but I see that the Polestar option is available for manual cars which .... you've guessed increases the torque of the manual cars???


Cheers

Bob

green van man Apr 23rd, 2018 17:55

I think it more likely to compensate for the power sapping tendency of auto transition.

Having a polestared manual D5 I can attest to the fact it has enough torque.

Paul.

Tatsfield Apr 23rd, 2018 20:23

Well if my Aisin-Warner auto transmission on my '12 215 bhp XC70 is sapping power, the engine must have oodles to spare as it pulls like an express train! Don't know what the effects of towing heavy loads might be but just driven enthusiastically unloaded it has not been possible to see how much grunt it will actually give before running out of road or nerve!

green van man Apr 24th, 2018 07:02

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Originally Posted by Tatsfield (Post 2396240)
Well if my Aisin-Warner auto transmission on my '12 215 bhp XC70 is sapping power, the engine must have oodles to spare as it pulls like an express train! Don't know what the effects of towing heavy loads might be but just driven enthusiastically unloaded it has not been possible to see how much grunt it will actually give before running out of road or nerve!

Agreed tatsfield. A gearbox is a gearbox it's the torque converter that supposedly causes the problem.
Whatever the official figure my manual has more than enough and I have never found its limit either.
On the subject of official figures can they be relied on? My handbook has a number of mistakes given in official figures, coolant capacity being a glaring one.
The rumour that the weaker manual box cannot handle the higher torque is prevalent though wether based on fact is another matter. I have yet to meet anyone whom broke their manual gearbox yet plenty complain of gremlins in the auto. Of course this may well be because there are far more autos than manual. As for clutches and DM flywheels, I have personal experience of a manual V70 on 225,000 miles on original components and it spent part of its life towing on a regular basis.

Paul.

Ant B Apr 24th, 2018 07:18

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Originally Posted by green van man (Post 2396346)
The rumour that the weaker manual box cannot handle the higher torque is prevalent though wether based on fact is another matter. I have yet to meet anyone whom broke their manual gearbox yet...

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Originally Posted by green van man (Post 2396346)
As for clutches and DM flywheels, I have personal experience of a manual V70 on 225,000 miles on original components...

Another 215 manual owner here, 103,000 on original clutch and no problems at all (and I’m not expecting to change it any time soon). Often driven enthusiastically... :tounge_smile:


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