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oragex Jul 22nd, 2018 17:48

One day I was looking at two clusters side by side, one with miles, the other with km. It seems to my eyes that the speed gauge sits at the same place on both of them, so perhaps only swapping the speed overlay will do the trick?

Themanfromdown Jul 22nd, 2018 23:10

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thanks for all your help guys if i didnt have to do this I wouldnt but dont want to sell the car its only done 45k and thats kilometres the cluster I am swapping is a different part number as this one does not show mph at all.
I am left with three choices pay a dealer some silly money to do this and they are not even sure either Spend a poultry 50 60 GB£ or the equvalent in euros on ebay for a second hand cluster and ether get on Kmh with Mph as secondary in middle... say a mainland europe one or a UK US style one with MPH foremost then KPH in middle Ill worry about the actual distance travelled as I am keeping the car after all but at least I can register it in the UK then... sorry I put the picture upside down but its just given me a great idea one of you may eluded to Tskr the cluster to pieces and hopefully that MPH KPH is just a black metal disc if it could be swapped with a kph mph euro style without upsetting the needle as I imagine thats quite sensitive Ok that might not be easy

SwissXC90 Jul 23rd, 2018 07:02

Be very careful: USA clusters have different warning icons and different symbols and thus may also be different internally

Even Canada is different to USA

Make sure you understand what market your vehicle was made for, and what market you want to convert it to
Investigate the differences in the clusters - the easiest way is to read the Owner's Manuals for the different markets

Then take a very deep breath and take the plunge in whatever direction you want to go

You will likely need to reprogram things using VIDA as well, so make sure you have access to VIDA

Themanfromdown Jul 23rd, 2018 13:12

Thqnks again Swiss I have a place called Southport Auto center who are Volvo specialist and Vida equipped but mot sure I have had a read of the manuals and no difference heck ive even got the towbar turn signal on the dash...The car was a diplomatic sales supplied to Australia so right hand drive.... Australia are a bit of a cheepskate (typical Australia) eg it has an alarm button. alarm red light on dash and on fob but the alarm was forgotten ...the car has been parked for 4 years of its life in total and for some 1200 AU dollars it is being shipped to UK financially its a no brainer but it has no mph dash which is a yes brainer ....

okedave Jul 23rd, 2018 13:53

you could just memorise what 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70 are in KPH and stick with the original instruments.

reggit Jul 23rd, 2018 20:42

I know in the motorbike world there are a lot of grey import vehicles with KPH clocks. All that is needed on these is for an instrument overlay with the mph figures marked. Can't see why it would be any different for cars. Only downside is the 'mile' counter is still in km.

Themanfromdown Jul 23rd, 2018 23:03

The converting is somewhat easy in my head as I drive in many countries so have got used to kph mph in my head.. its the red tape guys at Vosa or whatever its now called wanting an mph displayed on fascia. I am looking into the overlay option or swapping just the front of the clock facia and leaving the car in kms with an mph second much like mainland europe cars... hoping there may be a thin semi circle even hollow circle shape that will negate the need to even touch the needle on the speedo eg feed it over and stick down

Tannaton Jul 23rd, 2018 23:12

It’s the DVSA now and most of them are half trained fugwits with attitude (in my experience). They’ll probably miss the speedo and try and do you for not having matching wheel nuts or something.

The Speedo is checked at MOT now but I think only that it works. There are a few testers on here that may be able to confirm?

cchidzey Jul 24th, 2018 20:07

Hi,

First off mileage correction is like cutting and shutting cars. It isn't illegal. What is illegal is doing so with the intention to deceive a buyer, or using stolen parts.

Second, it's straightforward to alter the mileage, forward or backwards, if you have the right equipment and know-how. I suspect this isn't something Volvo could do, as I doubt their equipment is specifically set up for it.

From my experience with commercial vehicles, 9 times out of 10 the truck manufacturers couldn't alter the mileage, or they could wind it forwards but not backwards, but specialists with the right equipment could. All about the EEPROM :)

Have a quick trawl through the MHH Auto forums, it's an eye opener!

Tannaton Jul 25th, 2018 07:27

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Originally Posted by cchidzey (Post 2429119)
Hi,

First off mileage correction is like cutting and shutting cars. It isn't illegal. What is illegal is doing so with the intention to deceive a buyer, or using stolen parts.

Second, it's straightforward to alter the mileage, forward or backwards, if you have the right equipment and know-how. I suspect this isn't something Volvo could do, as I doubt their equipment is specifically set up for it.

From my experience with commercial vehicles, 9 times out of 10 the truck manufacturers couldn't alter the mileage, or they could wind it forwards but not backwards, but specialists with the right equipment could. All about the EEPROM :)

Have a quick trawl through the MHH Auto forums, it's an eye opener!

I agree that it's possible to alter the mileage on the dashboard using simple memory chip programming tools, but altering the mileage stored in the CEM is another matter and I don't think anyone's done that.

With regard to "clocking", in the new age of electronic service and MOT records, unless you are winding back a sub-3 year old car small amounts on a regular basis - I don't see the point because it's so easy to check now.


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