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Sceptre123 Jun 14th, 2019 10:13

XC90 v XC60
 
Ive recently swapped my MY17 XC90 for a MY19 XC60... I have been extremely worried about swapping for the 60, and I though I would share my findings...

Previous car was XC90 D5 Momentum with a couple of extras
New car is XC60 T5 R Design with Winter Pack

Noise - The XC60 is extremely quiet. The engine is amazingly quiet, the tyre noise is very low. XC60 wins head of over heals.

Engine - The car feels very quick and willing. The gearbox seems more willing to be in the right gear than the D5, and when cold feels much more alive.

Ride - The XC60 is the sporty suspension which I thought would be hard. It isn't, its amazing and far less choppy over rough roads and speed bumps. XC60 wins

Economy - The XC60 is very thirsty. You need the lightest foot, and nothing you do seems to make the economy any better, currently about 27 compared with 34 for the XC90. XC90 wins

Seating / internal size (excluding 3rd row / boot) - Very similar. The kids find the 3 seats better and more comfortable. In the front it's more car like but equally as spacious. Both excellent.

Boot - It is small on the 60... a bit small really but with some thought useable enough. XC90 wins

Tech - The two years hasn't changed how anything operates, but the system feels to be better generally. XC60 wins

Build Quality - Very similar. Overall the XC60 seems to be better. Im guessing that the XC90 on MY19 would also feel better. Both excellent

Overall I need not to worry! Very pleased; highly recommend the XC60

Obviously if they were the same money I'd buy a 90... just because they are brilliant. £ for £ the XC60 wins

Wizzpop Jun 14th, 2019 11:30

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Originally Posted by Sceptre123 (Post 2528618)
Ive recently swapped my MY17 XC90 for a MY19 XC60... I have been extremely worried about swapping for the 60, and I though I would share my findings...

Economy - The XC60 is very thirsty. You need the lightest foot, and nothing you do seems to make the economy any better, currently about 27 compared with 34 for the XC90. XC90 wins

A diesel will always have better mpg. Whether that makes it more economical is a different matter. A diesel engined car is usually a bit more expensive and diesel costs more at the pump these days.

jonnyu Jun 14th, 2019 11:33

I just dont agree with 3 points:
-Noise: Cant compare the ride noise having 2 different types of engines.
-Engine: Cant compare the gearbox performance from a Petrol engine VS a Diesel engine, neither the performances since the T5 has 245 hp and the D5 has 225 hp. Also weight ratio is different (the XC60 is lighter)
-Economy: Cant compare 2 cars with 2 different engines.

jonnyu Jun 14th, 2019 11:42

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Originally Posted by Wizzpop (Post 2528642)
A diesel will always have better mpg. Whether that makes it more economical is a different matter. A diesel engined car is usually a bit more expensive and diesel costs more at the pump these days.

True but the diesel continues to be a valid option in terms of economy.
I was confronted with this issue when I bought the car.
So I did the math: based on the current gas price difference Petrol VS Diesel + the difference of the anual car tax (emissions), based on a 25.000 km per year usage, you arrive to the conclusion that diesel is 2k per year less expensive than the petrol option.
Of course you have the car price difference to factor in which was for me around 5k (being the diesel more expensive).
So basically you have to decide 1st how many km you will do per year and 2nd for how many years will you have this car.
-Low n kms, having with the car for short or medium term: Petrol
-high n kms, having with the car for short term: Petrol
-high n kms, having with the car for medium or long term: Diesel
-Low n kms, having with the car for long term: Petrol

tangey Jun 14th, 2019 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyu (Post 2528643)
I just dont agree with 3 points:
-Noise: Cant compare the ride noise having 2 different types of engines.
-Engine: Cant compare the gearbox performance from a Petrol engine VS a Diesel engine, neither the performances since the T5 has 245 hp and the D5 has 225 hp. Also weight ratio is different (the XC60 is lighter)
-Economy: Cant compare 2 cars with 2 different engines.

You are saying the OP CAN'T compare his previous car with his new car ? Is there a legal presedence for this ?

I'm pretty sure he is aware that a diesel is different from a petrol, that the performance is different, that the weight ratios are different. He never said he was comparing like-for-like, just his old car with his new car, given the worry he had prior to changing.

DangerMUK Jun 14th, 2019 11:59

I went the other way to you XC60 -> XC90

I think the XC60 is a very nice car and its obviously been tweaked and refined compared to the XC90 which has been around a bit longer.

With that being said I think they're both awesome cars!!

(I had the T8 with both)

The T8 in XC60 format had slightly too much power going through the front wheels for my liking.

Sceptre123 Jun 14th, 2019 12:22

Haha “can’t compare”

I can compare... I’m a car user and that is my experience! I thought it worth letting other forum members know my experience incase it helps them consider similar or different options.

Hope all other forum users found it helpful.

Deman77 Jun 14th, 2019 15:05

I agree with most of your findings having had xc60 t5 as a courtesy for one family trip.
I would just note the following:
For urban short mileage I found t5 to be no more thirsty than d5.
T5 was definitely more wiling to be in the right gear and more willing to rev with no obvious effort.
I found xc60 a bit cramped. Rear wheel arch restricts rear entrance more, the front feels a lot less spacious.
Standard equipment on xc60 was indequate - lots of standard xc90 things were missing.
For quietness - the engine is no contest to my d5 but my18 xc90 d5 I tried was much quieter than earlier models. Xc60 is les cavernous so it does not have the magnification of noise like xc90 does.
I would probably get crucified for this on this forum but i don’t think xc60 would be winning any prizes in the looks department - only looks good from a couple of angles. I thought xc60 (r design it was) just looked wrong proportioned. Xc90 looks stunning from almost every angle. It does depend on colour wheel combos as there are a lot of xc90s that don’t look good but I a yet to see xc60 on the road that I liked.

XC90Mk1 Jun 14th, 2019 15:16

I wonder if you are a bit biased?

I am looking at renewing my 2012 and much prefer the sporty looks of the 60.

Inside it’s chalk and cheese. The 60 door tops are plastic and everything feels a lot cheaper. For me I compare it to the discovery and Range Rover.

I have no need for 7 seats and think the 60 looks better but the 90 is far more plush inside and a noticeable step up on quality.

Sceptre123 Jun 14th, 2019 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by XC90Mk1 (Post 2528705)
I wonder if you are a bit biased?

I am looking at renewing my 2012 and much prefer the sporty looks of the 60.

Inside it’s chalk and cheese. The 60 door tops are plastic and everything feels a lot cheaper. For me I compare it to the discovery and Range Rover.

I have no need for 7 seats and think the 60 looks better but the 90 is far more plush inside and a noticeable step up on quality.

They are pretty much identical for quality and plushness. The difference is certainly on standard spec. Although the spec on the new car is slightly lower the car isn’t missing anything is choose to pay for..

I’m very surprised!


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