V60 spare wheel problem solved
 

I have a V60 D2 and was concerned about no spare wheel. I contacted my local Volvo dealer and now have a space saver spare wheel, jack and tools located under the flap and secured with straps with the wheel in the wheel bag it was supplied in. I don't have the under tray any longer but that's fine.

I understand some floor pans are slightly different so you should try before you buy, total cost £150

All credit to the group service manager at hidden borough Volvo who went out of his way to help.

Hello!

Would be interested to see some photos as to how this works/what has been done to secure the spare wheel as I have had a few customers ask about this, but with no official word from Volvo have struggled to give a safe/secure option.

Regards

Marc

Yes please...pics required!!!

I'm thinking of buying a V60 early next year but only if I can get a spare wheel under the boot floor. Seems to be a bit of uncertainty about whether this is possible!!

TIA

Hi, photo of my set up. Would prefer to have something to strap / hold wheel in position so if anyone has any suggestions ....

Hope it's helpful.

ps this is a july 12 v60, some older versions may not have as much space below the boot floor. Apparently you need to look for a 1inch 'ridge' near the back seats?? If you have a flat boot there should be enough space.

So at the moment is the wheel loose in that area?

Regards

Marc

I have old underlay which is below it so once the boot floor is closed it's secure under the floor. There is possibility of a little side to side / even less front to back movement. Ideally I'd like to do something so there can be no movement but I am pretty sure the electrical stuff is all a safe distance from the wheel.

I'm surprised as a dealer you can't get good support from Volvo on this issue, it must be a deal breaker for some buyers?

For info the part kits I ordered were

31316306 - wheel brace, jack
31373123 - wheel & bag

all for under £140 from Moray Palmer at Strathmore in Perth.

The part numbers that are essential are

31317716 - jack
31381637 - brace
31317980 - wheel & tyre

but I don't know if they can be ordered alone?

Yep - it would be a deal breaker for me!! I'm not driving around with a tin of goo or a spare wheel taking up space in the boot itself!!

Not quite sure what Volvo are thinking of!

Surely weight saving, efficiency space saving is what Volvo were thinking of.

I have brought it up with Volvo when we have had in dealer training. We have another round coming up soon so I will broach the subject again pointing towards this thread.

Thanks :)

Not only Volvo doing this. they are just jumping on the bandwagon.
just look at BMW can of gunk or run flat tyres is all they offer throughout their
range. at least that was what I was informed by a dealer couple of years ago

Yes, lots of cars are now fitted with repair kits...Mazda, Honda, etc although I would think the effect of the weight of a wheel and Jack is negligible on overall fuel consumption.

What annoys me most is the fact that the option to get a spare wheel is there but you can't necessarily hide it under the boot floor, and the V60 doesn't exactly have the largest boot to begin with.

There have been a few threads about this before. It's definitely a deal-breaker for people, myself included.

I know other makes do it too, but that just isn't good enough for a make that prides themselves on safety.

Anyway, nice job on getting the wheel in :thumbs_up:

I am new to Volvo and the forum so many thanks to all for a great site and allowing me in.

We have just bought a 2013 V60 D5 Se Lux Nav Geartronic and are delighted with it. The D5 engine is a particular treat after owning a few 4 pots.

I am hoping that someone can help with a question. I can sae all the threads about fitting a space saver wheel under the floor. Very interesting and informative, many thanks.

Has anyone managed to squeeze one in with the grocery bag holder floor which I can see is slightly thicker than the standard one. I am trying to avoid rushing out to buy one only the find it won’t fit. I really need all the boot space and if I have to carry it there or in our caravan I may as well go for a full size one.

Thanks a lot.

I'm pretty positive this isn't possible. If it was then I'd imagine Volvo would have done it in the 1st place rather than making whole new boot floors to accommodate the wheel..... willing to be proven wrong if anyone fancies taking a hacksaw to their boot floor but from my experience of fitting them I'd say its not possible...

I have an 11 reg V60 and had the same concerns about lack of a spare. a deal breaker as far as I was concerned. I bought a skinny spare on Ebay for £80, a Volvo original complete with an expanding (to take the full size flat) zipped bag. I have a wheel brace available and swiped the jack from the trade in, having checked that it does the necessary. The wheel is not secured but it would be extraordinary were it to shift under normal use. The tools etc are stored in bags in the various spaces under the boot floor, and the tray is now surplus to requirements and kept in the garage. It is not as pretty as it could be but it works well enough for me.

Thanks very much.
Can I just check that your boor floor has the built in grocery holder.
Cheers.

Thanks very much.
I fear that you may be right which is exactly why I was checking.
I won't resort to the hacksaw just yet!
Cheers.

V60 spare wheel - solution (for me at least)
 

I today have taken delivery of a smart used V60 (thanks Marshalls !) and the solution suggested via several folks was to buy:-

313 73 123 Spare wheel and tyre £105
313 16 306 Toolkit (jack / brace / lever and tray) £36
this latter is cheaper than buying the jack separately

Our car has the grocery floor - do you mean that silly panel that lifts up to which you attache your supermarket bags - which then collapses when you go round a corner??

If so then - as far as I can see ('twas tipping it down when I fitted it) there was no problem with the boot floor sticking up _ I will check on the morrow if anyone's interested.
The wheel has no fixing but nestles is the space with very little room to move sideways or fore and aft. If any one's bothered there's a rubber (?drain) plug in the floor at about the right place which could be adapted to make a centre bolt to fix the wheel (as in the days of yore...) - see below
The toolkit is supposed to fit towards the rear, pinning the wheel down. I haven't yet sussed that

Volvo had two solutions - an earlier version was not more than a bag with complicated straps to locate the wheel. I think (hope) it's no longer available.

The current official solution is a mix of plastic holders and what looks like a new floor. Instructions can be downloaded from the accessories site, but at about £425, I don't thin there will be many takers... BTW it includes what looks like a retaining bolt (above) and could probably be ordered.

Our car came with a great tray that sits below the floor where you could store all manner of things. Sadly there's no room for it. You could probably chop the front end off, keeping the back end for some of the goodies.

Too much information??

Anyway for Mike95 - you don't need a hacksaw....

Is it possible for you to post some photo's with the spare, in situ.

Thank you.

tem.

Ho, Yus (aka that stupid Churchill ad:).
I'm marshalling my resources and will attemptto submit something when it stops raining (could be a while). However, I'm allergic to all those interweb sites that let you leave your photos then capture your "very being" - if you get my drift. UPDATE - yes I can insert an image, so that's OK.

Watch this space....

That's great news. Thanks a lot. Not too much info at all.

I plan to get the same kit as you, slip the wheel in and cut the tray to fit. Should all look quite neat.

I'll put the hacksaw back in the tool chest for now!

Cheers.

Mike

Pics will be good to see if it ever does stop raining!

Your wish is my command - and it's not raining (yet)

Attachment 70035

Grocery holder floor - just to prove that I have one

Attachment 70036

The wheel in the boot with the tool tray just visible forward of the wheel.
I forgot to take a picture of the empty space, but it doesn't really add anything. The wheel sits firmly in a circular indentation in the floor pan. No room to move the wheel laterally, but it can slide slightly for and aft.

If you want any more pics: send me a PM.

The goodies tray supplied with the car is a magnificent beast, but being modern papier-mâché may well disintegrate if you hack it about - it'll destroy its structural integrity. That said there's a lot of electronics littered about on that space, so some thought needs to be taken about how to protect them.

I stand corrected!.... as mentioned only downside of this version is the potential movement of the wheel... but looks to be a reasonable solution :D

Hi Mike95,

My model doesn't have the flap up grocery tray, just the (removable) gadget tray that goes under the boot floor. Hardly worth messing about cutting this up to fit the wheel for the marginal benefit that remains. i just took it out completely. I had a quick look at ebay and see the wheel etc that I bought looks to be priced at £95 now, but still worth it compared to a puncture in the middle of nowhere with no phone signal and an unrepairable tyre. Not pretty but good enough for me.

Thanks for all your trouble. That is great news for me.
Once I have the wheel in place i may have a go at chopping the tray and maybe strengthening it as not much to loose. I will let you know the result unless you beat me to it.

Love the colour of your car by the way. Flamenco red? I wanted one that colour but with the beige interior but where I bought mine from only had one with the off black. We ended up with silver and beige which also looks great - to me anyway.

Thanks again.

Hope you enjoy the car as we are.

Cheers.

Mike

Nice to have some feedback, so thanks, Mike.

I also post on the US VolvoXC forum where there (used to be) a lot of interaction. It's quieter now. There's a lot of interaction and I try to put something back where I can. So with a new toy I'm trying to redress the balance.

No I'm not going to chop my tray - you never know we might sell the car on (after yesterday's trial run The Management said she was beginning to really enjoy driving - after xxx years. A good sign as not many ladies get as anoraky about cars,;shoes, mebe...), in which case the tray will go back in.

Yes, the colour is Flamenco - our first love was the older ruby red, but they can't formulate that in water based paints (Our most loved colour was Scarab Green which subtlety moved from green to blue - hence the name). I had a red V70 with beige interior and never really liked it. While "selling" the car to SWMBO, I asked "black or beige?" - came the answer - black. Result!!

It's very much a personal thing and I wouldn't possibly criticise anyone else's choice. Black can be very oppressive, certainly in the garage the inside looks like the pits of hell without the flames (they're on the outside)

It's the nicest Volvo to drive that I've ever seen (even the T5 C30 was not that good), positive steering, good tactile feedback, and firm turbo thrust without any hint of "bothering". Current used offers of fleet cars are very attractive.

FWIW I've found an inexpensive rear mat via fleaBay and if it's good I'll report back on this thread. The manufacturer might be prepared to do a variation on the Volvo folding version if there's interest (There are costs associated with setting up a prototype and the volumes may not justify it). He might make me a separate piece to cover the folded seat backs which would be a good start.

If the muse takes me, I'll post pictures of Volvos initial "wheel in a bag" solution and the £450 later offering - so people can see what they're missing.


Watch this space.

Another Mike

Volvo have lost the plot again with this what was wrong with the old system and a normal spare wheel?

Duh! - as My Management says "Because"

1. There's no room in a modern bodyshell to put a full size spare
2. Full sized spares disappeared in Volvos some ten years ago (?)
3. A compact spare is quite adequate to get you home and for a few days thereafter. (done it).
4. At least there's room in the V60 to put a space saver tyre for a reasonable sum, but you lose the capacious bits & bobs tray.
5. In some cars there's no room to put any sort of spare wheel. Be grateful.

Pah!

I beg to differ.

No room - there is plenty. It is simply a matter of design.
A compact spare is quite adequate - no way. The most it will reasonably do is get you home a short distance at slow speed.

:nah:

Absolutely agree, however you forget that it is also fuel economy that drives the need for a space saver. The weight of a full size wheel plus tyre eats up fuel, plus the cost of the tyre is extortionate :)

Haven't had a full size spare wheel for 20 years and have never needed, or seen the need for one. A space saver will get you to any garage, kwikfit, or whatever in the UK albeit at a slightly more sedate, but much more economic speed :)

I agree too.

I am just thrilled that the spare will fit in the boot so no worse off now than almost all other cars on the road.

Thanks again to Mike for putting my mind at rest. Wheel already ordered.

It’s good to see that people have found a solution to the lack of spare wheel. However, I’m still not quite there yet.

I have a 17" Space Saver wheel from a 2004 S60. As it’s the same tyre size (125/80/17), I assumed it could be stored under the floor of my recently acquired V60 if I removed the under floor storage tray. The problem is that the boot floor (grocery flap type) doesn’t close properly with the wheel underneath. I’ve tried moving the wheel to various different positions and turning it over, but I just can’t get the boot floor to close. At best, there’s a gap just big enough to put your fingers in.

The pictures that Trueblue posted clearly show that everything fits, but I wonder whether Volvo have used more than one design of boot floor. I don’t want to order a new wheel only to find that doesn’t fit either.

Can anyone tell me whether the V60 Space Saver wheel is narrower than the older s60 wheel? When laid flat on the floor (rubber side down) the highest point is 6.125”.

Can't answer your wheel size question this evening, but if nobody else has got the tape measure out by the end of the week I'll check it then.

I'm one of the mugs that opted for the official solution, and had a first look round it today. Very neat (as you'd expect) and there's room for the snot kit that came with the car as well, along with towbar, emergency triangle etc all stowed in there too. Dealer gave me the old under-floor tray and original boot floor in case I ever decide to revert to original. They also gave me two foam inserts that none of us could work out where they go. Apparently they arrived with the kit but don't seem to fit anywhere - now taking up garage space along with the rest.

I know it was a lot of money but the wheel is secured (there's a screw fastening through the middle) and all the electrics in that part of the car are safely guarded by the moulded base. I've never had a shopping bag holder so I doubt I'll miss it. Apart from anything else, when Mrs McP hits the shops there's usually an issue of lack of space rather than worrying about things rolling around.

Been reading this thread and am throwing it out to all "will this space saver fit a S60". Mine is a D5 SE LUX 10/11 model and having had the misfortune of a blow out (totalled tyre side wall included) I was left with the only option of being trailered home.Sticky goo stuff was as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Even the 'friendly' police man who stopped for all of 2 minutes commented on how useless it was and I quote "that'll teach you to have a s****y repair system fitted to your s****y car". Your thoughts much appreciated.

I know we are talking about entirely different cars here but on my 2006 S60 I wanted a full size 17" alloy as a spare instead of my factory spacesaver and as such had similar issues to you due to the inbuilt grocery flap.

I removed the grocery flap from the boot floor ( 4 bolts ) and hung it up in the garage reasoning that I never used it anyway and can refit it should I ever return the car to standard.

I wanted a full size spare after last years Holiday in France when I got a puncture on a Saturday evening 200 miles from our accommodation.

200 miles at 50mph on a French AutoRoute with a spacesaver fitted is positively dangerous ! Never again.:stormy:

I'd be interested to hear if this was a success Mike. My V60 is also a D5.

Regardless of what the motor industry statistics say; I average around one puncture every 18 months. I don’t live, or often drive in a city, so it’s unlikely that there’ll be a tyre depot for miles and never one open after 4:30pm, or on Sundays. The foam repair kits don’t always work and are not practical, or (IMO) safe to use on unlit roads. To use the foam kit you first have to find where the tyre has been punctured and position this at the bottom. Can you imagine trying this when out on the moors on your own on a winter’s night in the driving rain? This is why a spare wheel is an essential bit of kit for me.

I have a bag for my space saver wheel so it will sit on top of the boot floor, but takes up almost the entire boot space. It also means I can’t use the grocery flap when the wheel’s in the boot, or lift the floor to access the storage tray. I’ve just swapped from a MY04 S60 to a MY11 V60 so I could have better access for larger loads, but with the spare in the boot, I’d have been better off buying a Fiat 500.

I asked a seller who trades in Volvo parts on an online auction site whether their “genuine” Volvo space saver wheels fit under the boot floor. Their reply was “if you take the tray out it will just about close but not fully”. That just about describes my situation: The wheel fits, but the boot floor doesn’t close properly.

TrueBlue has successfully fitted a wheel under a “grocery flap” floor. Either the floorpan of my V60 is different, or my wheel is bigger.

As I see it, my main options are: -
• Buy another wheel and see if that fits better than the one I already have.
• Buy, or make a new boot floor (without grocery flap).
• Modify my existing boot floor by cutting away the part that is stopping it from closing. Unfortunately not as simple as unbolting it as on the old S60 models (but thanks for the suggestion S60D5-185).
• Fit Continental “Contiseal” puncture resistant tyres, or have my existing tyres filled with slime.
• Use AA Relay (or similar) to get me home every time I get a puncture. (The last time I used the AA, I had a 6 hour wait for them to turn up).
• Change my car for a make / model that has a spare wheel.

Sorry to keep going over old ground, but I’d love to hear from other members on how they solved this problem. If you have fitted a space saver wheel under a “grocery flap” floor, what size was it? And where did you buy it from?

One suggestion from a work colleague was to bolt the spare onto the top of the bonnet like his Land Rover. I’m not sure whether he was serious, but I think I’ll give that one a miss.

Keith, I can confirm that my spare fitted under the boot floor with no problem. I too have the grocery bag holder thingy.

I got my wheel here:

http://www.volvogenuineparts.co.uk/p...r-2011-to-2013

Excellent service.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Mike

I removed the tray and popped in the spare and then put the bag on top of the wheel.
The floor closes flush.
I have the grocery flap.
Size is 125/80/R17.

tem.

Thanks Mike, Tem and everyone else who responded to my posts. I'll order a wheel from the recommended site. I'll let you know how I get on.