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Jod T5 Sep 2nd, 2006 15:41

Inlet manifold removal and oil seperator/pcv hose replacement
 
There has been a fair amount of talk recently regarding crankcase pressure leading to rear crankcase seal faliure so below is a step by step on manifold removal and breather system change...
Stage 1 Check the following http://www.fcpgroton.com/volvo850oiltrapturbo.htm for part numbers relating to your vehicle (by engine number), i did not bother with any of the volvo clips as i had an assortment of jubilee clips to hand, the volvo clips are a pain in the ass...
the parts i went for are
1 x 1271988...oil trap £16.00
1 x 9471644...hose and assorted guff £21.40
2 x 1389574...elbow (unused) £3.60
1 x 9146266...inlet manifold gasket £6.30
1 x 9135990...throttle gasket (unused) £1.75
total inc vat £57.64
Stage 2 Identify your pcv valve on the inlet air pipe.....
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remove the crankcase ventilation pipe (larger one) , the inlet manifold blow off pipe (smaller one) and the electrical plug...
Stage 3 Remove air intake pipe at the turbo, air box and intercooler pipework including the ducting to the throttle housing...(not shown removed) it is also advisable to remove the dizzy cap and the spark plug cover..(also not shown removed)
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Stage 4 Release the accelerator cable from the cable drum and the linkage ball joint....remove the drum frame from the throttle housing and put aside...
Then remove the one retaining bolt and remove the presure regulator hose at tree on the throttle body and then the throttle inlet hose can be removed and put aside in the engine bay....
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Stage 5 Remove the fuel rail cover and injector wiring and put aside in engine bay. Then remove the fuel rail clamp on the rear of the top of the engine and unscrew the fuel inlet pipe on the left of the injector rail, be prepared for a small fuel loss...the rubber hose may be left intact...
Stage 6 Remove the two 10mm bolts from the injector rail and carefully pull the rail away from the inlet manifold and twist it so it can be rested upside down on the top of the engine
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Stage 7 Using a 10mm extension socket with u/j remove the top manifold bolts and loosten the bottom ones several turns..the only real difficulty is the bottom left hand bolt that can only be accessed as shown below which means the top hose must be removed at the thermostat....it is at this stage that the 12mm dipstick to manifold bolt and the underside 12mm bolt need to be removed...note do not waste time and skin using a ratchet on these, invest in a 12mm ratchet closed spanner...and a 10mm one while you are at it..they are priceless tools
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Stage 8 Lift manifold up off block and set asside removing the left hand side bleed pipe and the breather pipe from the oil seperator at the cam cover so that the manifold can be withdrawn...
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The oil seperator will now be clearly visable...
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Stage 9 Remove the plug to the left hand knock sensor and remover the pipes to the pcv and discard..To remove the oil seperator from the block there are two bolts and finally the two hoses to the block are removed by breaking the clamp on the top hose and unscrewing the adjustable clamp on the bottom..
check the condition in particular of the bottom "return" hose for blockage, i shoved a piece of hosepipe in and blew to reasuure myself that the airway was clear...they were..
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good pipe bad pipe.............................................. ....... old seperator new seperator
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as you will see the pipework is clearly knackered but externally the seperator looks "used" only, however it was very coked inside...
At this stage if you did not before remove the dizzy
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so that the new pcv and blow off pipe can be intalled in position..Put on new inlet manifold gasket and replace the dizzy cap
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Connect the blow off pipe to the inlet manifold
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Stage 10 Repace the inlet manifold and torque to 20nm.....AFTER you have done up the inlet bottom mounting bolt...
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Stage 11 Replace the fuel injectors, using the two 10mm bolts, their wiring and the injector rail cover..
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Stage 12 Replace the accelerator drum frame and reconnect the accelerator cable and the linkage
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Stage 13 Replace the throttle housing and gasket if required, mine only needed a skin of instant gasket... not forgetting the pipe to the pressure regulator, and reconnect the throttle air inlet pipework. Then ensure that all electrical plugs heve been replaced
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refit the air inlet hose to the turbo and fit the ventilation pipe and blow off to the pcv, the latter will require a jubilee clip
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Stage 14 Replace the airbox, air inlet to airbox and intercooler pipe work....not forgetting the dipstick to inlet manifold bolt
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i have omitted serveral small bits and bobs regarding disconnecting this and connecting that which will be all apparent to anyone undertaking this operation...
This job is only imo a 2/5 and is easy provided you are methodical and keep your bolts etc in order...
Do not forget your 12mm ratchet spanner....
Good luck
cheers
jod

bb54 Sep 2nd, 2006 18:49

good work jodders, ill be printing it off and looking forward to my hols :-)

wayne.

Jod T5 Sep 2nd, 2006 20:34

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Originally Posted by bb54 (Post 143240)
good work jodders, ill be printing it off and looking forward to my hols :-)

wayne.

thanks wayne..

iGGy Sep 3rd, 2006 10:34

Nice guide there. One thing I will say about it is that you don't actually have to remove the fuel rail from the manifold. I disconnected the fuel feeds and left it on the manifold because I didn't want to disturb the injector seals.

I found that all of my hoses were basically shot, so had to replace all of them.

Jod T5 Sep 4th, 2006 06:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by iGGy (Post 143371)
Nice guide there.

thankyou iggy, coming from someone i know who has a great knowledge of this area that is a compliment....
Quote:

Originally Posted by iGGy (Post 143371)
One thing I will say about it is that you don't actually have to remove the fuel rail from the manifold. I disconnected the fuel feeds and left it on the manifold because I didn't want to disturb the injector seals.

i could not get the rubber fuel return pipe off at either end, i considered cutting the pipe off but i had not got any spare hose of the correct diameter but i agree that it is prudent not to withdraw the injectors unless it is absolutely necessary...
cheers
jod

dooby Sep 6th, 2006 11:21

Hi Jod,

thanks for posting the guide.

Just got back from the parts department so all bits are on order. Now I just have to pluck up some courage for when they come in!

Cheers, Pete

Jod T5 Sep 6th, 2006 19:24

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Originally Posted by dooby (Post 144231)
Hi Jod,

thanks for posting the guide.

Just got back from the parts department so all bits are on order. Now I just have to pluck up some courage for when they come in!

Cheers, Pete

hey pete, good luck and remember the 12mm ratchet spanner, and ensure you have a universal joint extension, work methodicly and it will be a doddle all in all it took me four hours, and that includes a little time for poncing around with photos.., as you are close to me and you feel nervous pm me and you can pop round one weekend and we can do it together...no worries...
cheers
jod

Alec Dawe Sep 6th, 2006 19:49

Don't have an 850, but must say that your detailed explanation is excellent, as are the photos. Would be happy to have a go myself on the basis of your post.

Have you ever thought of trying to put Haynes out of business! The 'old' UK produced ones were good, but the US clone ones are awful, in my humble opinion, and your explanation and pics knock theirs into a cocked hat

Jod T5 Sep 6th, 2006 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alec Dawe (Post 144369)
Don't have an 850, but must say that your detailed explanation is excellent, as are the photos. Would be happy to have a go myself on the basis of your post.

Have you ever thought of trying to put Haynes out of business! The 'old' UK produced ones were good, but the US clone ones are awful, in my humble opinion, and your explanation and pics knock theirs into a cocked hat

thankyou alec
i agree with your opinion on the haynes manual, they are imo priceless...a must for every diy'er..
cheers
jod

dooby Sep 7th, 2006 12:30

Hi Jod,

all the parts arrived today - for what it's worth there's a small typo in your parts list, apparently the inlet manifold gasket is 9146266.

Got envious of your Samco 4mm hoses too, so got some of that coming since I'll be in that area anyway. Did you re-use the clips when you did yours?

Thanks for the offer of a hand by the way - I'm should have a mate over to give some moral support so hopefully won't need it ;-)

Cheers, Pete


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