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stuarts Apr 12th, 2019 10:59

Noise from rear axle
 
After a puncture i fitted the space saver spare wheel and within a few miles the rear transmission had seriously overheated, after being recovered i had the diff nose seal and dust shield changed along with fresh oil. There is now a slight noise from the rear axle, barely audible when accelerating but louder as you back off the throttle. The noise is present even when knocked out of gear, coasting. Anyone else experienced similar? I am worried that if a bearing breaks down it may take out the rest of the transmission.

Lancee Apr 12th, 2019 11:06

Browsed and found this. Amazed as I thought AWD wheels and tyres had to be closely matched to avoid transmission damage, therefore would be astounded that any space saver tyre might not be closely matched ? Don't know too much about this but assume (Haldex ?) 4WD transmission has been damaged as a result ? Sorry to hear of this issue, good luck with a cost effective solution.

stuarts Apr 14th, 2019 11:03

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Originally Posted by Lancee (Post 2512291)
Browsed and found this. Amazed as I thought AWD wheels and tyres had to be closely matched to avoid transmission damage, therefore would be astounded that any space saver tyre might not be closely matched ? Don't know too much about this but assume (Haldex ?) 4WD transmission has been damaged as a result ? Sorry to hear of this issue, good luck with a cost effective solution.

Cheers, i have some news on the situation. I had only changed one of the tyres as the one that blew out had been removed and was portable. I took it down to have the other fitted and the noise has all but disappeared! Fingers crossed, i may have had a lucky escape.

Lancee Apr 14th, 2019 12:28

Thanks for the update, so many people on the forum are keen to put forward there problems but are less keen to offer up any subsequent solutions thereby potentially benefitting other members.

I guess your experience underlines the importance of similar diameter wheels and or tyres when running a 4WD vehicle ?

Genuinely pleased that on the face of it you have escaped a potentially expensive (being a Volvo!) issue, well done !

Breath a great sigh of relief and enjoy your Volvo while you can (until the next curveball!).

Ian21401 Apr 14th, 2019 21:40

Curious.
 
There is a post elsewhere about space saver wheels. I commented about the handling on our XC70 when a space saver was fitted to a front wheel. Someone else suggested that it was best/advisable to remove a good rear wheel and fit it at the front and fit the space saver on the rear. Not a good idea if AWD I fear.

stuarts Apr 16th, 2019 13:33

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Originally Posted by Ian21401 (Post 2512952)
There is a post elsewhere about space saver wheels. I commented about the handling on our XC70 when a space saver was fitted to a front wheel. Someone else suggested that it was best/advisable to remove a good rear wheel and fit it at the front and fit the space saver on the rear. Not a good idea if AWD I fear.

I also experienced strange handling with the space saver fitted prior to the transmission overheating, which i put down to the narrow temporary tyre but with hindsight, i'd say it is more likely to have been the AWD system desperately trying to compensate. I would never consider uaing a space saver again, mine will not see use on a vehicle again as i had the tyre removed to use as a fender on the mooring for my narrow boat!
With new tyres fitted to the front now, and a fifth Comet on its way for a spare, i hope all will be good from now on.

Ian21401 Apr 17th, 2019 11:29

What is a “Comet”?
 
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Originally Posted by stuarts (Post 2513409)
With new tyres fitted to the front now, and a fifth Comet on its way for a spare, i hope all will be good from now on.

I’ve been searching for ages for a reasonably cheap used 18” wheel to use as a spare. What is a “Comet” please?

Ian21401 Apr 17th, 2019 21:38

Sorry. Daft question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian21401 (Post 2513682)
I’ve been searching for ages for a reasonably cheap used 18” wheel to use as a spare. What is a “Comet” please?

Checked on eBay. Found some but not correct width, PCD or offset.

100K+ Apr 18th, 2019 10:22

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Originally Posted by stuarts (Post 2512287)
After a puncture i fitted the space saver spare wheel and within a few miles the rear transmission had seriously overheated, .


Will any of you peps please tell me what year the cars are you are talking about?

What you are describing I believe is the case with the early Volvo V70/XC 70/V70 Cross Country, ( to approx. 2002/3MY) as I believe they have a different type of AWD system. This system 100% is VERY VERY sensitive to differences in tyre diameters - to the point where different tread depth is even critical.

The later V70/XC 70 use Haldex series 2/3/4 etc which I believe has no issue at all with different tyre diameters.
I have a 2004 V70 AWD R and have had no issues with overheating, but do fully agree with comments about squirrelly handling on a spacesaver.

Cheers
Bob

stuarts Apr 18th, 2019 15:15

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Originally Posted by 100K+ (Post 2513930)
Will any of you peps please tell me what year the cars are you are talking about?

What you are describing I believe is the case with the early Volvo V70/XC 70/V70 Cross Country, ( to approx. 2002/3MY) as I believe they have a different type of AWD system. This system 100% is VERY VERY sensitive to differences in tyre
diameters - to the point where different tread depth is even critical.

The later V70/XC 70 use Haldex series 2/3/4 etc which I believe has no issue at all with different tyre diameters.
I have a 2004 V70 AWD R and have had no issues with overheating, but do fully agree with comments about squirrelly handling on a spacesaver.

Cheers
Bob

I don't know how i managed to overlook the type of car! It is a manual V70r AWD late 1997 vintage, just over 90,000 miles on the clock.


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