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adarvasi Dec 12th, 2018 19:01

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Hello Army,
I am impressed with the good condition of your instrument cluster! I "restored" one that was given to me, but I am not 100% satisfied with the results.

Army Dec 13th, 2018 05:02

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Originally Posted by adarvasi (Post 2475191)
Hello Army,
I am impressed with the good condition of your instrument cluster! I "restored" one that was given to me, but I am not 100% satisfied with the results.

Your's looks a lot smarter in your picture than mine.

I haven't done anything to the one I've just fitted. All of the bulbs are blown so they need to be replaced. I'm not sure if the instruments work - I figured I'd do that once I get round to re-wiring the vehicle. A spare instrument cluster came with the car: I assume the speedometer or odometer is broken in that one - I haven't checked.

To be honest the instrument cluster is a pretty low priority for me on this car at the moment!

Army Dec 18th, 2018 14:59

As the temperature in the workshop rises...
 
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...there's a chance I'll get some more Volvo things done!

(The last few days it has been far too close to freezing to enable the motivation needed to change into thermal overalls)

Today I had a quick look at that (silly) pesky vinyl trim that goes between the wings and the body.

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1545144869

Following the method seen on the old parts I'm snipping out excess material to help keep the vinyl flat as it goes round corners

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1545144869

I plan to glue the trim onto the back part of the wing where it is obvious where the trim is going to fit i.e. right on the edge - for the front part of the wing it is not so clear exactly where the trim will sit so I'm planning to leave that bit unglued so I can adjust it if need be

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1545144869

Just a few more snips needed and then I'll have to find the hollow punch set I think I've got somewhere along with a white / light coloured pen to mark the positions of the holes - I considered chalk (which I'm sure old school Volvo technicians used) but I imagine I'll be rubbing it off and punching holes in the wrong places if I'm not careful (know your limitations...)

Ron Kwas Dec 18th, 2018 15:30

Army;

Is that official fender welt from Volvo or something a third party is offering?

...the reason I ask is that from here, that material looks like simply the standard fabric-backed vinyl sewn around a core...that is typical of what is used on edges in the interior, but I wouldn't expect to see that style of material on the exterior, where the cotton backing fabric would hold moisture (and moisture held in a seam immediately gives me a scare...!) I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade...but for exterior use, I would expect to see non-fabric backed vinyl which won't hold moisture long-term...any thoughts, or have I identified the white component wrong?

Cheers

Army Dec 18th, 2018 15:54

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Originally Posted by Ron Kwas (Post 2477100)
Army;

Is that official fender welt from Volvo or something a third party is offering?

...the reason I ask is that from here, that material looks like simply the standard fabric-backed vinyl sewn around a core...that is typical of what is used on edges in the interior, but I wouldn't expect to see that style of material on the exterior, where the cotton backing fabric would hold moisture (and moisture held in a seam immediately gives me a scare...!) I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade...but for exterior use, I would expect to see non-fabric backed vinyl which won't hold moisture long-term...any thoughts, or have I identified the white component wrong?

Cheers

I completely agree Ron - it is why I've been calling it silly stuff...

...I bought it from the vkv webshop here in Holland but I understand they got it from VP automotive in Sweden. If I remember correctly it is exactly the same stuff that came off the car - I'll do a picture tomorrow (assuming I can find it in the pile of "what came off")

As far as I am aware this is the stuff that Volvo used back in the day - there is a plastic alternative offered by the vkv as well

Here's a link =>

https://www.volvokv.nl/producten/pro...gory_pathway-2

I've been worried about water getting trapped between the panels - vinyl roofs for example are famous for it - which is why I'm planning to add in a sealant once I've got the trim in the correct position

It is - with out doubt - a daft system

arcturus Dec 18th, 2018 16:53

Never had any problems with mine.

Austinvolvo Dec 18th, 2018 19:47

VP also sells the solid plastic stuff.

http://212.247.61.152/us/main.aspx?p...le&artno=13220

Dean

Army Dec 19th, 2018 10:26

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Originally Posted by arcturus (Post 2477130)
Never had any problems with mine.

Unless things get really bad the only time you'll see a problem is when you remove the wing

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Originally Posted by Austinvolvo (Post 2477186)
VP also sells the solid plastic stuff.

http://212.247.61.152/us/main.aspx?p...le&artno=13220

Dean

Thanks - I've seen that but the problem as I see it is that you are introducing an element between two parts that might act as a sponge or an area that traps water. I'm going to be using sealant on what ever gets stuffed between these wings...

Ron Kwas Dec 19th, 2018 14:23

Arcturus;

Typically, damage due to moisture takes its time, so problems wouldn't be immediately obvious...but it can only serve to accelerate corrosion issues...

It is up to us to always consider long-term affects of anything we do to our cars...and a moisture inclusion into a seam popped out at me...

Cheers

arcturus Dec 19th, 2018 15:14

When the wings were removed for the first time as far as I know, by me, after being in place for over fifty years there were very few signs of corrosion!


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