RPM fluctuations while cruising
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Recently bought a 2004 S80 D5 automatic with 250k km on it. When cruising between 55 to 85 km/h, it will repeatedly disengage and engage the lock-up clutch every five seconds or so, even though I keep the accelerator pedal fixed. This is not so noticeable when driving on flat roads but in uphills it is kind of annoying because the RPM varies by more than 500 rpm or so. It happens in both 4th and 5th gear. However, when cruise control is activated this behavior is immediately absent. It seems to be the same issue as discussed in this forum: https://forums.swedespeed.com/showth...RPM-fluctuates Any idea for a new volvo owner? |
I see I have managed to put this into the wrong forum, maybe an admin can move the thread?
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The transmission oil was replaced a year ago according to the service history. It was performed by a Volvo workshop. Previous owner said this was done because the transmission was starting shift hard in the low gears. For me the shifting feels OK now.
I don't know if the fluid change was thoroughly done, so I will do a few dumps and fills myself soon. if it was a transmission problem, why it would vanish when cruise control is active? Could the reason be external to the transmission? |
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I have found out that it happens below 1700 rpm.
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The workshop said there was no new software for the car, and therefore assumed it had the latest versions. They also said the transmission was flushed (11 liters of oil was used) |
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Yes. The increase in rpm is proportional to the load, where almost no increase is seen during low load. Under higher load, the torque converter slip might be so high that a lower gear in lock-up would give a lower rpm. It doesn't change gear, this I have verified by manually switching the gear selector to 4, which will make it shift.
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I did the first measured fuel up today, and the fuel consumption from the trip computer has a 25 % error, which I believe is out of normal accuracy range. Could this be a connection with the gearbox?
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Our two XC70 models, one D5, one D4, does something similar. But at lower revs. You have to be somewhere down below 1300 r/min or so (depending on load), when they sometimes do a smaller, hydraulic downshift by just releasing the lock-up. Either completely or at least somewhat (limited slip).
This is to avoid vibrations at certain load levels. Maybe your older model (ours are 2012 and 2016, with the six speed gear box) does this at a higher engine speed? |
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