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Classico Apr 12th, 2018 12:33

Help, my 240 doesn´t start
 
Oh well, after a recent complete service and some exhaust mending (getting rid of holed mid muffler and put a straight pipe instead) the car was going fine. A week later it turns but doesn´t start.


Went yesterday morning for a ride but couldn´t start it. Tried again on the afternoon and then started after trying some. I noticed that firing the engine was not as inmediate as before but went for a ride and the engine didn´t miss a beat so I thought it was ok.

But this morning wouldn´t start again!

It has fuel, electrics seems ok, pretty new spark plugs, battery ok.
What could it be? Petrol pump perhaps?

It is a 230F engine

Any ideas, please

Classico Apr 12th, 2018 12:56

My bad posting before searching forum, sorry

I´ve found a list of possible culprits perfectrly summarise as follows:

Originally Posted by Clifford Pope View Post
Possibilities in order of ease of checking:

Fuses. Clean fuses 4 and 6 - fuel pumps (If you carry a short bit of wire with a crocodile clip at each end, and the car won't start, try clipping 4 and 6 together. There will be a spark because it bypasses the relay and lets the pumps run continuously. Gets you home, then DISCONNECT)

Fuel pump relay White relay up behing the glove box, near the wiper mechanism. Always worth carrying a good spare, takes seconds to unplug and swap it in

Ignition Amplifier Module Flat module bolted to the inner wing just in front of the battery. Carry a spare, and if 1 and 2 don't work, unplug and clip it in. Have the spare already mounted on its heat sink, then it can just dangle until you get home.

Crank Position Sensor The fiddly one. If you know what you are doing it's a roadside job, but don't lose the bolt !

There's an endless list of possibles after that, but those account for 99% of all starting problems.

morsing Apr 12th, 2018 18:29

Can you hear the fuel pump buzz for a second when turning the ignition on? It's by the left, rear wheel, might help if you have someone sit next to it and listen.

If not, get a test light out and see if the relay behind the glove box closes correctly, or alternatively pull the wires of the fuel pump and test on those, but remember they're only on for a second when you turn the ignition on.

Also try pulling a spark plug wire and rest it on top of the engine. You should be able to see the spark to the block when turning it over.

DW42 Apr 14th, 2018 00:31

It should have LH2.4 injection, in which case you can check the computer's diagnostic codes. Use this guide: https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/EngineOBDCodes.html

I wonder if the oxygen sensor was disturbed during the exhaust repair. If it's not sending a signal to the ECU you can end up with the fuel mixture running too rich, fouling the spark plugs, then making the car hard to start and run poorly. This theory would be supported if you get codes 1-1-3 and/or 2-1-2.

john.wigley Apr 14th, 2018 11:11

As 'Classico' says that the problem arose after replacing his muffler (silencer(?)) with a straight pipe, might this not be something as simple as altered back-pressure in the exhaust system causing the engine not to start?

If the car was running well before he did so and nothing else was changed, then that is the first place that I would look when attempting to identify the fault.

Regards, John.

chris m Apr 14th, 2018 12:07

my (wild) guess: Sensor on top of clutch bell housing?

I had that problem with my B230F (ages ago)... replaced the sensor, problem was sorted for good!

Hope this might help, Chris

Classico Apr 18th, 2018 11:00

Finally it was the CPS-Crank position sensor, number 4 in Clifford Pope list of non-start main culprits (see above).
Thanks Cliff and other advise
Very helpful forum indeed

Staticloveninja Oct 19th, 2018 10:05

I’m having issues with my FPR. I have gone through 4 in the last month! Every time I replace it the car starts and drives fine. 87 240... when I removed the casing the other day I could see where the contact had melted the plastic. When I was able to make the contact with a screw driver the car would start but as soon as I began to drive it would start dying and run rough then die.
What could cause the relay to burn out that fast?? I replaced the ignition coil, both in tank and external fuel pumps.... I’m going insane with this. Could there be a faulty wire shorting it out and where do I even start to search?
Thanks!

Staticloveninja Oct 26th, 2018 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by morsing (Post 2392181)
Can you hear the fuel pump buzz for a second when turning the ignition on? It's by the left, rear wheel, might help if you have someone sit next to it and listen.

If not, get a test light out and see if the relay behind the glove box closes correctly, or alternatively pull the wires of the fuel pump and test on those, but remember they're only on for a second when you turn the ignition on.

Also try pulling a spark plug wire and rest it on top of the engine. You should be able to see the spark to the block when turning it over.

So I took the cover off of the relay. When I turn the key I can see the first contact work and when I try to turn it over the second contact does the same. But it struggles to start. I actually have had to hold the second contact closed to run the pump for 3 seconds then attempt to turn it over and after a few tries it will start but sometime it will run rough still or if I put it in gear will attempt to die!
I did figure out that one of my smaller plugs on my ignition coil had come lose and was not giving proper contact. I’ve had this same relay for a while now and it’s not burnt up yet. So maybe the lose coil wire was causing an issue. Still doesn’t help explain why now I still struggle to get her going? I have noticed if I get it going drive it without issues **** it off 80% of the time it will still start right up after switching it off. BUT every morning or if I haven’t ran it in hours it will struggle? I’m at a loss!! I’m also curious as well I replaced all my fuses with new ones and checked the contacts.
I did get under the car and used my tester to check the external pump wires and that it was working which it is. What’s the chances of it being a fuel filter or something minor??

Staticloveninja Oct 26th, 2018 08:55

Interesting


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