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Army Apr 24th, 2018 16:29

Had fun today
 
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To avoid a situation like this =>

http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Wo.../ProppedUp.jpg

I came up with a plan (that this one man band can do on his own)

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

The shell is so light I've just supported it with chunky soft wood at the A pillar and B pillar. The main contact points are on the sill and the roof gutter on the B pillar and this is the more important support point to get right because that's where most of the weight is...

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

HD ratchet strap across the width of the vehicle as close as possible to the B pillar ^^^^

Using the engine hoist to clip to the ratchet strap and up up in the sky (in my beautiful balloon) =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

I found that when you get to this angle (what's that 20 degrees or so?) =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

I needed to reposition the body (just by lifting by myself) to reposition the bits of wood on the side

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

Up until now you can see I had time to make photos and **** about

The next bit was a bit more intense (!)

Still it was easy to just man handle the body into position =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

Now I guess some might be seeing / reading this and thinking I'm likely to damage the body by leaving it like this. All I can say is that I'm sure this isn't going to be a problem (I might drop it righting it back after I've painted the under side of course - but that's another thing!)

Still this has saved loads of dosh buying a proper rotisserie thing so as far as I am concerned all is good (in the deep dark wood).

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Reason why I've done this =>

Under the bitumin undercoat there's a wee bit of surface rust in some places

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524582896

This needs to be sorted yesterday before it takes hold.

Austinvolvo Apr 25th, 2018 03:44

I did all that work underneath by propping the whole thing about two feet off the ground. This would have been easier than fighting gravity the whole time.

dean

Army Apr 25th, 2018 09:32

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Originally Posted by Austinvolvo (Post 2396723)
I did all that work underneath by propping the whole thing about two feet off the ground. This would have been easier than fighting gravity the whole time.

dean

I too have done it that way on other vehicle types. Since then I have thought long and hard about rotisserie designs: My biggest problem with them is the limited chassis attachment options and then of course where to store the bloody thing when it isn't in use.

This time I was so impressed with the structural rigidity of the PV that I felt flipping it over onto its side was OK especially as it is so light.

So far I've removed a bucket of dry mud from the underside. It is nice to know that this time most of that didn't end up in my eyes or my hair!

Army Apr 25th, 2018 15:10

Assorted progress
 
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1) I think I found another upgrade!

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524665192

This little light in the boot looks more like an add on product now I can see it more easily

(This is the car that just keeps on giving)

2) Surprising result when I removed the differential caps today =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524665192

I was expecting the differential to fall out of the axle seeing as the backlash can be measured in light years - it didn't - seems to be a lot better than I thought.

Now I've got to see about getting a chest expander

3) Even though I've reached that familiar pain barrier when you're removing underseal...

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524665192

...it is when you remove things like this axle bump stop that makes you realise it really is a worthwhile job to be doing.

Army Apr 26th, 2018 17:36

Boing! (went Zebedee)
 
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Springs - I had a go at removing the rust and old paint with wire brushes and then thought about firing up my own compressor for sand blasting and then thought "life's too short"...

...I went to see a local place that does sand blasting and asked how much it would be. Usually he gives a "**** off and don't come back" price but he must be getting used to me! He went soft and said 30 euros for 4 springs so I thought "life's too short" let's see how it goes...

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524760341

...from a distance the results look promising. Unfortunately the rust has taken hold a bit more than I thought and the surface is pitted =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524760341

They do seem solid (and they do pass the uncompressed length test in the manual). I decided to paint them and see how they perform

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1524760341

I'm not 100% certain this is a good choice: Opinions?

Army Apr 28th, 2018 09:36

No opinions / comments about the springs?

I am surprised! I thought I'd at least get one "you'll knock the earth off its axis if you do that" response.

So OK I'm probably not completely daft and I will keep an eye on the springs if I fit them - but I suppose the questions should be a bit more along the lines of =>


"Has anyone experienced road spring failure in a PV544"

and

"Are they known to be a problem"

and

"If your springs were as pock marked as mine would you bother painting them and fitting them"

????

norustplease Apr 28th, 2018 11:13

Corrosion is a significant contribution to spring fracture and will set up stresses and strains, particularly at the ends of the coil where it leaves the pressed housing on the seat. I am not sure how effective painting will be in terms of ongoing protection, since the paint may well crack as the spring flexes. Modern springs are coated with a flexible PVC type material.
I can't tell from the photographs posted whether the car looked to have sagged at all, and you say that the spring lengths unloaded, are as specified, but that may not mean necessarily that after fifty odd years, they will maintain their intended length under load.

I would have thought that having taken the car as far as you now have, that it would be sensible to replace the springs.

Army Apr 28th, 2018 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by norustplease (Post 2397931)
Corrosion is a significant contribution to spring fracture and will set up stresses and strains, particularly at the ends of the coil where it leaves the pressed housing on the seat. I am not sure how effective painting will be in terms of ongoing protection, since the paint may well crack as the spring flexes. Modern springs are coated with a flexible PVC type material.
I can't tell from the photographs posted whether the car looked to have sagged at all, and you say that the spring lengths unloaded, are as specified, but that may not mean necessarily that after fifty odd years, they will maintain their intended length under load.

I would have thought that having taken the car as far as you now have, that it would be sensible to replace the springs.

Mumble grumble - bloody budget...

...I looked at the specifications in the book but applying a known load to measure the deflection isn't all that easy to do as a DIYer...

...I suppose I know the answer...

...Mumble grumble - bloody budget...

Army Apr 29th, 2018 17:30

At least I have saved some stuff today...
 
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...by managing to rescue a few shims for the rear axle that adjust the wheel bearing play =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525019266

They have become a bit rusty so I soaked them in some Rustyco concentrate (similar to Evapo Rust as I have been lead to believe)

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525019266

^^^^ Best to scrub the parts outside of the concentrate (here I'm using the kitchen sink - risking life and limb) - then put them back in for another soak

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525019266

The rescue might not seem like much until you realise how expensive these shims are to replace

Army May 1st, 2018 10:07

OK question about sun visors
 
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Can any one identify the type / year / pattern number for these?

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525165376

Side one =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525165376

Side two =>

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1525165376

They are still in pretty good condition and should be a suitable replacement for the spongy black plastic crumbly things that came with the car.

I know the sun visors I have are not original - some sort of after market things - but I would like to know about these replacements I've just bought.

They look like they are meant to go with a blue(ish) interior but I reckon because of the fading they'll come good with the light brown interior I've got.

Still in an attempt to hedu-me-cate myself does anyone here know

1) Approximate year
2) Interior code
3) PV444 or PV544?


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