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Stop messing about and put your best efforts into getting the best finish in 72 that you can. It's quite a rare colour and will always stand out in a crowd. I like it. :regular_smile:
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I agree, all that effort and work, then to end up with a battered looking bare metal finish with a quick spray of clear lacquer. Very disappointing.
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First I think it is best to point out that going for a bare metal look (or the way I'm doing this) is not an easy way out. Any time saved in sanding filler is more than lost by the number of times I've been masking areas (!) I realise that I might not like the end product and have to roll my sleeves back up and get busy with original 72 colour. For this reason I'm painting the inside and the parts of the underside in that colour just in case I need to get rid of the bare metal look. I will have everything set up to just remove the removable body panels and repaint - the wheels can stay on - by comparison with what I'm doing now it'll be a doddle. In practice this PV will be a three colour car => I've got chassis black on the underside for practical easy to repair reasons - I've got 72 fawn brown on the inside and parts of the underside like the wheel arches spare wheel hump and lower edges of the sills - and I've got "no colour" on top at the moment... ...trust me this is not being lazy. ######### The pictures I've taken so far don't demonstrate how nice this car could look (in a delightfully dreadful way). I'm not going for something like this => http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XIkvgOsLJ3...0/DSC_0237.JPG (See http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2013...etal-2000.html) The body work on that charger is absolutely insane - anybody who has even done even a little bit of body work has got to appreciate how fantastically straight it is. But - and it is a big but - I don't like it on that vehicle shape. I reckon a bare metal look looks much better on something from the 1940s / 1950s (like the PV design) => https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/bare-metal-hot-rods-1.jpg (See https://auto.howstuffworks.com/bare-metal-hot-rods.htm) Something a bit grungy can be nice - this for example => http://www.gibbsbrand.info/blog/wp-c...-Metal-KG3.jpg (See http://www.gibbsbrand.info/blog/cate...are-metal-car/) Bit too glossy and too much muck under the clear coat for my liking but even so I kind of like it. ######### So bear with me chaps! Or should I say "bare" with me... (?!) If it all goes tits up and I don't like what I've done I've got a solution up my sleeve. |
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Seeing the most recent discussion direction I thought I'd show a few pictures of the masking (!)
The final chassis black has now been applied to the underside and after a bit of playing tomorrow with a new paint product (I can't wait - so exciting) I'll be tipping the car back upright. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1536678575 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1536678575 The chassis black will be dry enough tomorrow to allow some masking of the holes in the floor pan (holes that are meant to be there - such as drain holes!). The underside will then be covered / masked before I flip it back upright to protect it whilst I carry on with the epoxy and painting of the inside of the car. Oh yeah - forgot to say - Dauboline - didn't try it after all - after cleaning out the transmission tunnel are I just went for Eastwood rust encapsulator... |
Just in case you ever drive your PV into a lake...
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...and wonder why the car fills up with water so quickly, here's a couple of pictures of the underside of the car with every (intentional) drain hole masked off for painting the other side
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1536823128 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1536823128 Quite a lot of holes there really isn't there (Car's now back upright ready for the last stages of paint on the inside - race against the colder weather is on) |
Not sure that all the holes are drain holes. I think that they are holes for the mat/carpet, clips/buttons.
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I haven't been posting much...
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...because it has been busy busy getting the benefits of the last warm days - under 17 degrees C you may as well forget about spraying (most) car paint.
The epoxy primer has been applied on parts that weren't already done - amazing to realise how much work was needed when I kind of had it in the back of my mind that I was "nearly there" - not at all. Anyway the epoxy primer (as I'm sure I've mentioned before) needs to have a connecting coat of this stuff called "Pantsercoating" which I chose to be a light grey to help with sanding and spraying. This is the first layer on the inside => https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537282574 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537282574 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537282574 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537282574 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537282574 The repaired parcel shelf came out OK - if you remember there were some ugly holes cut in it for speakers. |
Celcover on the sides today
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I'm surprised to see that you have left the glass in!
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Everything - and i mean everything - has been removed from the shell and every body part. More masking => With the window masking removed for spraying the special on bare metal clear coat it was time to mask over the new applied clear coat to get nice straight lines on the insides of the window holes. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 To get nice straight lines / clean edges I'm using super duper orange 3M masking tape - it costs a fortune so only gets used on special occasions... https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 ...I quickly switch back to the cheaper stuff (costs 1.50 euros a roll) for fitting up the newspaper (which also only gets used to cover parts that are going to be sanded - just in case there's a bit of print transfer) https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 If you look inside the car I've masked an area on the floor so I can spray - this will have to be painted at a later date https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 ###### The inside has now been sprayed in the base coat and two coats of Car System anti-scratch gloss clear coat. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537461868 Spraying inside a car - any car - is a nightmare. Difficult to spray in confined spaces - difficult to get decent coverage - difficult to stop drips and runs... ...I think I did OK today but there are several places that will need to be rectified. ###### Note I've painted all the way round all of the window openings in epoxy - pantsercoating binding layer - base coat and gloss clear to make sure that rust has a very hard time forming under the window rubbers. I'm hoping the window rubbers cover all of the fawn brown paint - if some of it is visible I'll have to invoke plan B... ...to be continued |
Apologies, It looked to me that the glass was still in. Excellent work
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Well I'm anbout as glum as the grotty weather today
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Can't paint car paint today - too cold - 16 degrees C in the workshop - not worth the hassle
Glum Glum Glum Still 'ere's some progress pictures made in the last few days => Inside of the floor pan is finally covered in top coat original Fawn Brown (Might start to think about the wiring loom!) https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537705594 ^^^^ Here's the masking removed that I was standing on to paint the rest of the inside And of course the negative image of masking around the bit I've just painted so I can paint the last bit https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537705594 I'll be glad when all of this masking is done and the paint is done https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537705594 ##### The reinforcing strips on the bonnet are a nightmare. I could feel surface rust under some parts but wasn't able to get all the way under to scrape it off. After paint stripping and degreasing I used the liquid form of rustyco to attack the bits I couldn't reach - I swilled it about for a few days Then had to wait ages to get the stuff to dry out (left it for a week) Finally once dry I used thinned Eastwood Rust Encapsulator... https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537705798 ...that too got swilled about in the cavities and the parts where no beer / man will reach |
Didn't have that problem. Whoops, pic' upload failed.
my bonnet doesn't have the ribs |
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Saw a car the clour yours should be this morning, looked bloody gorgeous!
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What are your intentions with this PV when it's all finished. will you be keeping it or selling it on?
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This car will be a "daily driver" in so much as it will be something I intend to drive once in a while. I don't go far may be 3000km a year if that (recently I've been too ill to drive so I've imposed a self inflicted ban). For me the PV is something with a bit of character that I won't get too worried about if I leave it in a car park (benefit of a pre-bashed body!) that is road tax free (big deal in Holland) fairly cheap to insure as an only car with an agreed value arrangement. For me the biggest PV plus is the head room - even in a large Mercedes (my favourite make so far - I have two) my head is really close to the headlining - blinking irritating being a normal sized person in a world designed for midgets... |
Bit of a shame...
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...the penny has dropped - I've more or less run out of painting time.
Tomorrow and Thursday look like the last warm days of the year. To take advantage of the last days I'm going to get the bulkhead / engine bay finished at last - I had trouble with the nasty paint reaction remember and for that (emotional / ****ed off) reason it got delayed and delayed. Today I "popped a wheelie" with some help from some brake drums and a few blocks of wood to hold the body in a more upright position so I can spray tomorrow if it is warm enough. It will probably have to be Thursday of course but with any luck that part will be done so I can start with the (front) suspension and the engine + gearbox etc https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537880930 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1537880930 The oncoming colder weather does mean there will be a massive delay with finishing this project. I am kicking myself for not getting it all done sooner - but as always life gets in the way. I am (of course) investigating other options such as hiring a spray booth or getting someone else to finish off the paint for me but so far I've not found anyone locally who I trust... (Saying no more - could get rather rude!) |
Right that's probably it...
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...that's probably the last bit of top coat paint I can apply to the car for the next six months..
Flipping 'eck! Epic fail - didn't win the race with the warm weather. Still once these parts are dry I can tidy up - clean up - take all the junk I've got kicking about down the tip and have a good re-group and re-assess of this daft project I've started. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538055849 As you can see I'm running out of space again - pain in the backside - no matter how much space you have it is never enough. I'm sure I could fill two football pitches with junk given half the chance... |
Send some of your "cool" weather here. It's been 30c in Sagres.And perhaps some rain whilst you are at it :)
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This arrived in the post today
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I'm hoping it will help with painting a few smaller parts during these colder days
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538234386 Can't be used to help epoxy along as epoxy doesn't get on well with UV but for real car paint it should be good - it is only 1kW but it kicks out an impressive amount of heat... ...to be continued - should get to try it out in anger next week |
Could you not rent a free standing patio gas heater? That would warm the garage and let you finish the job
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I'm hoping lady luck will stay on my side. The end of this week the forecast is reckoning on a few days where the night time temperature won't go below 10 degrees and the day time approaches 20! Yeah! Under the glass roof in the workshop I might get more than 20 degrees which would be ideal. If I'm lucky I can get some more done. At the moment it is full steam ahead with the epoxy primer and preparation for the doors => https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538315068 Despite several sanding and air blasting attempts that double skinned bonnet is still seeping out muck that gets stuck in the primer. Pain in the backside. Spray - sand - hoover - air blast - hoover - spray - sand - repeat - repeat - repeat... |
Finally getting somewhere with another problem part
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That blinking front got left to one side because at the time I was still trying to figure out a decent way of getting rid of stupid underseal.
The thinner and the decent paint stripper combination is finally making progress => https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538403631 The internal corners on the sides are especially frustrating https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538403631 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538403631 Having removed the caked on muck, however, I've found a few (tiny) holes that need attention - so more welding tomorrow I guess... |
Whilst the cleaning and repairs to the front section...
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...continue and the inside of the doors get coated in epoxy primer and that blinking bonnet with the seeping crud gets coated in pantsercoating (ready for colour tomorrow with any luck) - I've started masking again!
I'm getting ready for the off chance the weather / workshop will be warm enough for a protective layer of Car System anti-scratch over the top of the Cellcover (Too many product names? Go back and read again!) https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538487914 You can see how I've painted round the windows from the inside to the outer edges that will be covered by window rubbers. I did this for a bit of extra protection in the never ending fight against rust https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538487914 (Thought I'd better show a masking in progress picture just in case folks feel I've left the glass in!) https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538487914 Once the holes have been covered I'll be sanding with 600 / perhaps 800 grit paper so the next clearcoat will stick - it is also an opportunity to correct a few drips (!) |
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I spent most of the morning and all afternoon going trough your restoration. Fascinating, entertaining and very, very useful. Thank you very much for sharing. Andres |
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Swanning about getting nowhere today
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Still masking and sanding getting ready for the warmer weather that should be arriving tomorrow
Disaster struck => On removing some masking tape paint pulled away from the edge https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538583127 Pain in the backside - means a fair amount of messing about - but I suppose it is better to have the problem now rather than later Flipping bonnet is still giving me trouble - combined hoover and air line method seems to be producing mass (defying the laws of physics I'm sure) https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538583127 Tomorrow I hope to have the outside of the cellcover sanded and ready - perhaps there'll be some bald PV pictures for you all... |
Update for today
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The underside of the bonnet has been painted as best as possible with base coat. Problem is the edges / shadows / sides on the stiffeners make it a very difficult piece to paint - tomorrow I need to get the paint brush out - tis the only way I'll get to all the parts...
...use of paint brushes is not illegal! Some might think you should spray everything but sometimes it is easiest or even best to break out the paint brush => https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538669772 ^^^^^Here I've just sprayed some etch primer into an old aerosol cap ########## In other news the body is now more or less ready for the promised warm day tomorrow so I spray on the anti-scratch layer https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/attac...1&d=1538669772 I'm hoping the dull finish shown in the picture above is close to how the body will finally look when I get the top layer of matt clear coat sprayed (with any luck that'll be Saturday) |
Does you body have a roughly 1" diameter hole in the sill area at the bottom of each B Pillar? If so, do you have any idea of the purpose of these holes. I have them on the 444 and they are a bit distorted outward.
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Mine look a little bigger and for some reason, both sides are distorted out. I thought maybe something to lift the body. I want to try to fit inertia 3 point seat belts, and I need something with some meat in that area. |
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{I estimate the body weight to be under 150kg when everything has been removed but unfortunately I have no way of checking this} As you know I have been following your thread - I am aware of your seat belt desire - but I'm not sure of the existing mounts you have in your PV. I assume my car had a factory three point fixing system fitted. I assume that when inertia reels were fitted to the lower part of the B pillar some one cut into the hollow box section under the rear seat so the rear seat passengers didn't have to trip over the reels. You can see in the picture that I've added in little bits of bent steel to close off the box section and make it a bit more rigid. I'm sure I've mentioned already that I'm not 100% happy with the way this has been done on my car - all I've done to the current set up is to try and tidy things up a bit. I think I remember saying if there are no factory fixings on your car then I reckon you're better off getting advice from a classic car company that specialises in fitting seat belts. If not then you need to investigate the strength of rivnuts / nutserts and beefing up the structure to suit => As you can see from the holes in your sills thin metal can be bent easily - you have to fix things to strong things (!) |
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