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Dexter22 Jan 18th, 2022 20:40

Noob:Differences between 2004 XC90 D and D5
 
Hi all

I am a noob, I am looking to buy an XC90.

What are the differences between a D and a D5. Also are there some that are semi-auto like a smart? Surely they are full automatics right?

Also any other pointers will be much appreciated.

thanks

SwissXC90 Jan 19th, 2022 07:52

You can buy XC90s with Manual and Automatic gearboxes. the Automatic boxes also have a Manual mode.

D5 means Diesel, 5 cylinder.

john langrick Jan 19th, 2022 08:11

Hi, I think all of the older (pre 14 at least) are d5, i.e., five cylenders,

The semi automatic is a feature where you can move the gear knob to the left and the gears only change by moving the lever up and down. The gear you are in is indicated in a box under the tacho on the dash. Moving the knob to right re selects auto. Such use might be to keep the gearbox in one gear for towing up a hill, but it is now no longer automatic and in this mode has the potential to stall if revs to low, or overev if too high. You need to listen to the engine or carefully monitor the tacho. This gearbox is also called 'geartronic'.

As said there is a manual gearbox option.

Mine is geartronic and after a life of manual cars, I have to say makes you very lazy and laid back!

Welcome and good luck.

Moose Test Jan 19th, 2022 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexter22 (Post 2800865)
Hi all
Also are there some that are semi-auto like a smart?
thanks

No. The smart uses a manual gearbox and clutch in conjunction with automated selector/clutch actuators. Mechanically, it's a manual. The XC90 auto is an automatic gearbox in the true sense, based on the torque converter principle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexter22 (Post 2800865)
Hi all
Also any other pointers will be much appreciated.
thanks

With respect, you need to know a lot more than you currently do if you're not going to risk buying something which will be very costly for you to repair a few days down the road. Everything you need to know has been discussed hundreds of times on this forum (it is, in my opinion, the most useful marque forum I know of), so be kind to yourself and spend a weekend here reading up before going to see something.

Here's a starting point: https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=319549

ian ferguson Jan 19th, 2022 18:19

Hi I have to agree with that, I have looked on other marque forums for friends and just give up.

Dexter22 Jan 19th, 2022 21:57

Hello all

Grateful for your help.

I still don't get what the difference between D5 and D is, I can see both D and D5s available online with 163bhp and from the same year. Are they different models?

thanks

TruckbusUK Jan 19th, 2022 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexter22 (Post 2801112)
Hello all

Grateful for your help.

I still don't get what the difference between D5 and D is, I can see both D and D5s available online with 163bhp and from the same year. Are they different models?

thanks

Sellers/vendors describing something incorrectly ... you will also find 160bhp, 165bhp,180bhp, 187bhp .... all wrong, dont worry about it, all mark1 diesel XC90's in the UK are D5's ... 5cylinder diesels ... any other descriptions are poorly advised descriptions.

hope it helps.

Rocinante Jan 20th, 2022 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruckbusUK (Post 2801133)
Sellers/vendors describing something incorrectly ... you will also find 160bhp, 165bhp,180bhp, 187bhp .... all wrong, dont worry about it, all mark1 diesel XC90's in the UK are D5's ... 5cylinder diesels ... any other descriptions are poorly advised descriptions.

hope it helps.

Parkers seem to indicate that there are various versions/specifications available, including both D's and D5's, and that they came with Power outputs at 163bhp, 182bhp, 185bhp & 197bhp.

https://www.parkers.co.uk/volvo/xc90/estate-2002/specs/ (executive trim shows the 4 engine labels/power outputs on the one spec, with the 2.4D showing 163bhp and if you select the 2.4D5 it shows it as 163bhp & (06)182bhp )

Granted I believe they are all pretty much the same 5 cylinder engine, in different states of tune but they are all not identical if that is what you are suggesting. (but I think you may just be suggesting that they are deviations in the ads from the quoted output)

Easiest way is you can put the reg in Parkers of a vehicle you are interested in and it will give the spec.

https://www.parkers.co.uk/car-specs/

I also have issue with the suggestion that D5 means 5 cylinder diesel.(Yes all that generation of D5's are 5 cylinder diesels) but does that mean Volvo's D2's are 2 cylinder and D3's are 3 cylinder. Also the current D5 has 4 cylinders.

TruckbusUK Jan 20th, 2022 13:59

The info you have quoted from Parkers is plain wrong for the MK1 XC90 UK spec cars.
:regular_smile:

Dexter22 Jan 20th, 2022 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose Test (Post 2800955)
No. The smart uses a manual gearbox and clutch in conjunction with automated selector/clutch actuators. Mechanically, it's a manual. The XC90 auto is an automatic gearbox in the true sense, based on the torque converter principle.



With respect, you need to know a lot more than you currently do if you're not going to risk buying something which will be very costly for you to repair a few days down the road. Everything you need to know has been discussed hundreds of times on this forum (it is, in my opinion, the most useful marque forum I know of), so be kind to yourself and spend a weekend here reading up before going to see something.

Here's a starting point: https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=319549

I have looked at that site and thank you! Your comment was spot on. I have been using Toyota's for a while and I got to the point where i would have used cars delivered to my door without checking them out first and never ever having any sort of issues with them.

I was planning to have an XC90 delivered to my door but after your message and follow on read through the forum pages, I now appreciate the XC90 beast a bit more. I can't buy one without checking it out thoroughly first.

thank you for this, credit where credit is due.


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