If all I wanted was a Prins system why on earth would I have stood by and discussed your 'premium kit'? Rick decided to take the car to you because you are supposedly the man who specialises in converting Volvos. That decision was in part driven by my own experience. My 940 has a Prins kit. It was fitted locally and when first installed I had issues with it. I was not happy at all. It so happens I speak fluent Dutch and I drove the car to Prins in Veldhoven. I demanded to see a technical guy, explained the symptoms and he agreed to look at the car. He then started laughing and explained the reason the car wouldn't run properly was because the vaporiser was on upside down.
I then did exactly with the guy who fitted my kit as Rick did with you, I spoke to him and informed him of what I believed the fault to be. He argued, but also said that he would ring Prins and get the low down.
He then did three things.
He rang me up and apologised, he said I had understood their technical guy correctly and he had been unaware of this issue. He should have known.
He arranged to pick the car up from my house.
He corrected his mistake.
He gave it back to me with a full tank of gas 'as a gesture of goodwill.'
The other thing he had done was supply me with exactly what I HAD PAID FOR. Namely a Prins kit with Keihin injectors. Since he supplied me with quality parts the fault was fixable. The car has done 170K miles on gas and has never needed and gas components replacing.
That was nothing like what is going on with Rick's car.
We understand fully the ignition system needs to be spot on. Rick's car was running perfevtly. We'd checked for fault codes it had none. It had fairly new ignition leads, roror arm and cap. It was fitted with Iridium plugs.
At no point did you say that was an issue. You gave it back with the plugs it had in when Rick drove it up to you. If iridium plugs were an issue why didn't you point that out? You had the car for 3 WEEKS! You had it for nearly 2 weeks when Rick took it back to you and it came back with gas leaks and loose bolts.
The car ran like a bag of nails after you converted it. We fitted the plugs you recommended and it made no difference to how the car ran.
We then fitted all new Volvo ignition components. There is no earthly reason why the car shouldn't have run properly with those if it had an ignition fault. Incidentally we fitted all the old stuff to an S70 and it runs perfectly on them!
The issue with you is that you have NOT supplied what Rick paid for. Your system cannot be fixed. It will always be a random collection of ultra cheap LPG parts. Rick specifically asked you about fitting a Prins kit. You said 'No fit my premium kit, it has the same injectors as the Prins but uses a much faster ECU.'
Rick accepted your advice because he had gone to a specialist. He did not get the same injectors as a Prins, he got ultra cheap Korean lookalikes at a premium price.
He did not get a much faster ECU, he got an Oscar N which is low end kit.
Your 'kit' makes no rational sense. Had he bought the Prins kit he would have received Keihin injectors, just the difference in the injector price between the Hana and the Keihin is the difference in the kits.
He is annoyed because he paid for Japanese Keihin injectors and you supplied cheap HANA injectors.
You gave him advice that was purportedly expert advice but as far as we can see it was merely self serving, It is not a premium gas kit.
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Originally Posted by classicswede
Yes 6PM was the time I was told. Ricked called me around 1PM to say he was at the train station and yes he waited there while I was at the dentist.
Why would Rick tell me he was happy with the engine running if he was not?????
Yes he did struggle to understand how the spark plugs had been the cause of teh issue. You only need to skim through this section of teh forum to see that the ignition system needs to be spot on.
When you have a misfire on petrol then there is no hope for running on LPG.
To me you have come over as if you would only be happy with a Prins system fitted to Rick's car yet you have had issues with the Prins system on your own car.
A inspection from John Walker who does the UKLPG testing would be the best thing for everyone. You could contact Mike Chapman to try and arrange that.
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