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Old Mar 23rd, 2024, 19:16   #19
john.wigley
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Originally Posted by Tannaton View Post
And I think this is the root of it.

Seemingly in this day and age, there are so many "bodies" that make rules and regulations as well as guidance and the average bloke on the street has no chance of knowing how to navigate it.

Just this week a read a case where a chap in our village is in a legal battle with the council - he placed a plastic bag (supermarket carrier bag) of rubbish from his car in the bin at a layby. I think he'd parked up for a bit, and decided to put a few bits of rubbish in his car into a bag and in the bin next to him. The council went through the bag, found letters with his address on it, and slapped him with a £400 fixed penalty for "illegally disposing of household waste". Apparently, it's illegal to deposit household waste in bins other then your dustbin.... How was he supposed to know that?
You make an interesting point, 'T'. I feel that the application of a little common sense is necessary in situations like this.

You say 'our village', so I'm assuming that the council concerned is your local parish council. I must admit that their action does seem a little Draconian, but look at it from their point of view. Has there been a problem with this recently - large quantities, repeat offences, etc.?

Our PC provides and maintains a number of waste bins throughout the village for the benefit of both residents of, and visitors to, the village. There is a not inconsiderable cost in so doing which is paid for out of their precept. For people to abuse this privilege may be considered antisocial to say the least and can result in an increase in littering in the village.

I know from attending PC meetings as both a member of the public and resident (all are welcome to attend, and there is a period allowed at the start of the meeting for public participation, when matters of concern may be raised) that the problem is by no means confined to your village.

To my knowledge, there have not been any prosecutions, but they do have that power, although it would have to be a very extreme case for it to be invoked. They do, however, monitor the situation when it is brought to their attention, and will take less Draconian action, such as sending a letter to the person concerned if they can be identified, if necessary.

Another difficulty lies in identifying and, if necessary, proving, what constitutes 'household' waste. For example, an empty washing up liquid bottle, especially if included as part of a larger quantity of waste, would almost certainly be considered as such, while a soft drinks bottle of similar capacity may very well not be. It does also seem a little unwise in an age when identity theft is rife to dispose of personal papers in such a way. (We make a point of putting ours in the shredder and then recycling for that very reason!)

As I say, a degree of common sense is needed and most PCs that I know of are reluctant in the extreme to enter such a minefield. Your neighbour might be a little more thoughtful and considerate of others when disposing of his waste in future, and the PC is only looking after your interests as a Council Tax paying (from which their precept is paid) resident.

Your PCs actions do seem to be a bit of an overreaction, but then I don't know the full circumstances or the extent of the problem. Our own PC seems to spend much more time and energy, in conjunction with the police, on drug dealing and fly tipping in secluded places, than it does on waste bin infringement, rightly so in my view. If, like us, you want to live in a pleasant environment, then your PC both needs and deserves your support.

Regards, John.
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