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RobSun · Oct 4th, 2017, 16:37

I realise that this is an old post but I have had the same problem and worse with my V50 1.8 petrol. I had not long had it when it started doing this and it was difficult to start also when it had been left for a couple of hours.

Took it back to the dealer who took it to their garage saying they suspected throttle body. This they said was cleaned but it did nothing and after the dealer was very reluctant to do anything saying it could be very expensive and didn't want to keep swapping parts over that may not fix it. Keeping things civil lets say many discussions followed.

I came on here and found others having the same issues and having problems resolving it with poor results from Volvo dealers. Anyway after consulting with the dealer I took the car to a local indie for a full service (not yet ready but not to far off needing one). He said he knew what it was, wiring contacts will be corroded. He cleaned everything, didn't work. He said could be throttle body, accelerator pedal box, air sensor, inlet manifold flapper valves but cant say anything for definite as the car shows no faults and is up to date on all software. By now I was well miffed and hated all Volvos. He could only advise changing one part at a time and see what happens. This was echoing the dealers statement so it told me dealer had seen this all before.

Back to the dealer he would not shift and was not prepared to do anything. I put a very poor feedback on his site and took advice. He agreed to look at it again, told me to take it to the local main Volvo dealer where he got it from for them to do a health check. I took it to them and they found no faults and said the car was showing up to date on its software but if I wanted too they would do a re program for lots of money but didn't advise it. They could only say the same as the indie and start swopping parts. THey said they would give no guarantees that any part would fix it nor would they put the old parts back on if it didn't. I decided Volvo's really are crap and the dealerships even worse.

As I was leaving the technician who had worked on the car came over for a chat. He said I can only give you the official Volvo blurb but my experience of this same engine in Fords and Mazda is it will be the air sensor in the manifold after the throttle body. He then proceeded to show me where it was and said clean that first, if that doesn't work replace it, always sorts out a Focus with the same problems.

Went back to the supplier who arranged for it to go to another garage they use for warrantee work, who I had dealt with a lot, to get the car checked again. He said its the throttle body definitely, it will be very expensive it may need the Volvo software to set it up and I don't have that but it would work and I would have to take it to Volvo after. He suggested I investigated if it would need setting up after. By now I hate all Volvos even more and the car is getting worse and cutting out whilst driving.

I go back to the supplier after all he's paying the bill. He says he's going to talk to the garage. Mean time I get talking to a mate at a classic car meet, he says try some Winns EGR cleaner its brilliant for this type of thing and it worked for him. I got some from Halfords £10.00. That night I spoke to a mate of mine who designed and developed car engine management systems for BMW and Rover, and also develops engine tuning. He says bring it over to me I've got all the latest Volvo software let me check it out.

Next day I go over to his house he plugs it in and says that's ok, that's ok mmmm showing no faults but showing its not firing correctly at 3000rpm and not picking up well. Lets try your snake oil from Winns wont do any harm.

Has a look at the throttle body and said this hasn't been cleaned or touched since it left the factory. He didn't remove it but cleaned out as much crud as he could with a rag and following the instructions on the can applied the Winns. It amazed us both, the car was still plugged in and the effect was noticeable immediately, running smoother before the procedure was completed. Since it was done I have had no problems for 4 months, the snake oil worked. We suspect it was the air sensor that had 80,000 miles of crud on it making it not work correctly so not sending the correct messages but at the same time not showing as faulty. I have got another can with the intention of giving it another dose at sometime.

Online feed back gives this product rave revues with many using it every year when servicing.

I can only advise try it its easy to use, it works, and now I like my Volvo a lot.

If it doesn't remove and do a full clean of the sensor or replace it, I am told its the cheapest part, but if this doesn't work you could be in to the expensive business of having to change one part at a time till its resolved.

Oct 4th, 2017, 16:37	#6
RobSun New Member Last Online: Mar 27th, 2021 14:34 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Bradford	I realise that this is an old post but I have had the same problem and worse with my V50 1.8 petrol. I had not long had it when it started doing this and it was difficult to start also when it had been left for a couple of hours. Took it back to the dealer who took it to their garage saying they suspected throttle body. This they said was cleaned but it did nothing and after the dealer was very reluctant to do anything saying it could be very expensive and didn't want to keep swapping parts over that may not fix it. Keeping things civil lets say many discussions followed. I came on here and found others having the same issues and having problems resolving it with poor results from Volvo dealers. Anyway after consulting with the dealer I took the car to a local indie for a full service (not yet ready but not to far off needing one). He said he knew what it was, wiring contacts will be corroded. He cleaned everything, didn't work. He said could be throttle body, accelerator pedal box, air sensor, inlet manifold flapper valves but cant say anything for definite as the car shows no faults and is up to date on all software. By now I was well miffed and hated all Volvos. He could only advise changing one part at a time and see what happens. This was echoing the dealers statement so it told me dealer had seen this all before. Back to the dealer he would not shift and was not prepared to do anything. I put a very poor feedback on his site and took advice. He agreed to look at it again, told me to take it to the local main Volvo dealer where he got it from for them to do a health check. I took it to them and they found no faults and said the car was showing up to date on its software but if I wanted too they would do a re program for lots of money but didn't advise it. They could only say the same as the indie and start swopping parts. THey said they would give no guarantees that any part would fix it nor would they put the old parts back on if it didn't. I decided Volvo's really are crap and the dealerships even worse. As I was leaving the technician who had worked on the car came over for a chat. He said I can only give you the official Volvo blurb but my experience of this same engine in Fords and Mazda is it will be the air sensor in the manifold after the throttle body. He then proceeded to show me where it was and said clean that first, if that doesn't work replace it, always sorts out a Focus with the same problems. Went back to the supplier who arranged for it to go to another garage they use for warrantee work, who I had dealt with a lot, to get the car checked again. He said its the throttle body definitely, it will be very expensive it may need the Volvo software to set it up and I don't have that but it would work and I would have to take it to Volvo after. He suggested I investigated if it would need setting up after. By now I hate all Volvos even more and the car is getting worse and cutting out whilst driving. I go back to the supplier after all he's paying the bill. He says he's going to talk to the garage. Mean time I get talking to a mate at a classic car meet, he says try some Winns EGR cleaner its brilliant for this type of thing and it worked for him. I got some from Halfords £10.00. That night I spoke to a mate of mine who designed and developed car engine management systems for BMW and Rover, and also develops engine tuning. He says bring it over to me I've got all the latest Volvo software let me check it out. Next day I go over to his house he plugs it in and says that's ok, that's ok mmmm showing no faults but showing its not firing correctly at 3000rpm and not picking up well. Lets try your snake oil from Winns wont do any harm. Has a look at the throttle body and said this hasn't been cleaned or touched since it left the factory. He didn't remove it but cleaned out as much crud as he could with a rag and following the instructions on the can applied the Winns. It amazed us both, the car was still plugged in and the effect was noticeable immediately, running smoother before the procedure was completed. Since it was done I have had no problems for 4 months, the snake oil worked. We suspect it was the air sensor that had 80,000 miles of crud on it making it not work correctly so not sending the correct messages but at the same time not showing as faulty. I have got another can with the intention of giving it another dose at sometime. Online feed back gives this product rave revues with many using it every year when servicing. I can only advise try it its easy to use, it works, and now I like my Volvo a lot. If it doesn't remove and do a full clean of the sensor or replace it, I am told its the cheapest part, but if this doesn't work you could be in to the expensive business of having to change one part at a time till its resolved.