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Originally Posted by Ninja59

I NEVER recommended him (the OP) to buy edge or Castrol oil full stop in this thread.I only told him the specification which somehow you fail to see 0W-30 A5/B5 DOES NOT NECESSARILY mean Castrol Edge of that grade, please again read my earlier posts I never said for the OP to buy Edge specifically, he if he has done so has done so without my input.

Whether you like it or not the oil you are "babbling on about" is a 5W-30 oil NOT what the OP's car needs which is 0W-30. Industry standard NOT Castrol standard, Industry standard, Volvo specifies a 0W-30 A5/B5 for 5 cylinder diesel engines, nothing else.

No your reason is totally confused as the OP has a 5 cylinder diesel engine which requires 0W-30 A5/B5 the oil you keep harking on about is the wrong specification. FACT. You even said this yourself in a round about way, which is what I was alluring to in regards to the irony of you recommending the wrong oil for the OP's car.

We are not talking about the 4 cylinder PSA/Ford 2.0D here at all, the D3/D4 are are an off shoot of the D5 engine, a Volvo engine no Ford engine what so ever, so going on about Ford specifications is laughable. So you can follow your beloved Mobil blindly to the cows come home should you get a 5 cylinder D3/D4/D5 engine and happily plonk in 5W-30 which is what you are basically saying, that is of the wrong specification for the OP's vehicle [see the irony in your statement now if you had a 5 cylinder D3/D4/D5?]. Unless you have somehow thought the PSA engine (which I happen to know you own a PSA 2.0D engine) is the same as a D3/D4 they are nothing alike what so ever, somehow I believe you have failed to understand I have a lot more than just knowledge of the 2.0D engine in the P1 cars, possibly it is a personal thing and you have a grudge against me, which is quite amusing.

I do not know more than mobil but the oil recommended for this engine is wrong on that search without a shadow of a doubt. Amazingly some systems are not always right, it is well known that Castrol's website was wrong for a long time, and a few others besides.

Overall you are the one that seems to fail to understand even the basic specification or to read what is in front of you! And anyway talking about DPF's to me is pointless these days having gone back to a petrol, but I still have enough Volvo D range 5 cylinder knowledge to say the oil for the D3/D4/D5 that you keep going on about is not of the right industry standard as specified by Volvo.

And just to remind you no where in this picture for the specification does it feature the words "Castrol" or "Edge" - Note the "D3/D4" - the OP's 5 cylinder diesel volvo engine and 0W-30 and A5/B5. Quite how you find this difficult is beyond me. It is almost like if I even mention 0W-30 A5/B5 you automatically go off on one at me, saying I am recommending Castrol or edge which I have not. Thanks for the laugh though. Ha.


Just to back up my points first the MY2013 V70 instruction manual specifications (same for various years).



No where do these posts state the OP must have Castrol Edge...

In relation to the differences between the retail range of Castrol and the "Professional range."





Stated "if you went down" this post never said or stated he must get Castrol Edge, and neither do I now.



"or any make" as I know there are other 0W-30 A5/B5 oils out there, the Mobil version that meets the requirements for the Volvo has a higher SAP content something you rather oddly decided to leave out. And somehow you appear to think you know more than Volvo....

Link to Mobil 1 Fuel Economy 0W-30 A5/B5 - check out the SAP content. http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LC...omy-0w30.aspx#

Just to really stick the nail in the coffin about searching on Mobil's website for oil...



Product recommendation means it does not necessarily meet the manufacturers specification...

Shell Helix 0W-30 - A5/B5 approved (ironically Shell can even identify the right oil 0W-30 A5/B5!)
http://lubematch.shell.co.uk/recomme...ge=5&brand=109

***hs had an interesting disclaimer on their search:


Millers do not have a 0W-30 A5/B5 oil.

Comma refuse to provide one because it is a "specialist product".

and your original statement in this thread:



No hard feelings as we are only here to share information, but it helps if it was correct information for the vehicles involved.

There is certainly no hard feelings.

This is a debate about two different opinions.

If two people can't have a good old fashioned disagreement where would the world be.

Perhaps I am too tight?

The more information and opinions that are out there can only make things beneficial in the longer term.

My position is mainly one of cost.

0w30 A5/B5 is also the advised brew for my V50 in severe service from memory.

And it is always more expensive than 5w30.

Only Used Oil Analysis would give concrete proof of which is the best plan.
Cheaper oil with an interim oil and filter change.

Or better oil with a longer one.

Due to the Dpf and the risk of fuel contamination of the oil I side with shorter and cheaper.

I suppose what we should take from both our opinions is our engines are well serviced!

I am aware the OP has a 5 cylinder.

Perhaps I have put too much faith in the Mobil lube advisor software?

I also still have concerns about using Castrol 0w30 specifically due to the high saps.

Due to the Ford connection going back many years I would think the vast majority of Volvo dealers still use Castrol oils.

The main dealer that did my recall work yesterday certainly still do, though in all fairness they would as they are also a Ford main dealer!

Perhaps some UOA results would be an idea.

I am more than willing to get one done so the forum can start to build up some detailed data.

Perhaps with a sticky at some point in the future?

I am about to send off two 5k mile sample for analysis for my Pathfinder.

Though not strictly relevant the Mobil Super is going in this time so I can compare it to the two previous samples that were C3 oil.

The engine in the Pathfinder is specified for B1 and B5 oil aswell as C3.

The saps of the Mobil Super are the same as C3.

If any D3 owners or D5 owners want to follow suit.

I use Blackstone in the US.

You go to their website and they send you sample containers and you pay when you send the sample.