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Originally Posted by volvobaggen
I believe new cars are all rubbish due to abundant and complicated electronics.
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Agreed 100%. Its why I prefer older cars.
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Maybe I´m also becoming a grumpy old fart, because the next car is a Volvo 940 
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I said the exact same thing when my Renault Laguna died. I had another 940 estate before that and I loved it, but it was costing too much in fuel.
Here's a little arithmetic challenge.
I bought a 940 estate for £300 off a mate. I then spent in total about £300 in parts (mostly consumables, including a couple of tyres) to make it good. I had it for 2 years. At the most expensive time (for about 6 months) I was spending £100 a week on fuel. Insurance group 8 (I think) it was costing me nearly nowt to insure. About £300 per year.
I changed to a newer, smaller car, which I bought for £1300, which I had for 2 years and in that time I spent around £1000 on garage bills (because I could do NONE of the maintenance myself, all specialist tools and plastic crap in the way, too complicated, and because it failed a lot anyway). While I had that car I was spending around £70 a week on fuel. Insurance group 12 (I think) I couldn't get insurance under any terms for less than about £500 per year
Ok so fuel prices rose a bit since getting rid of the old 940, but not by that much, so in effect the 'cheaper' car was actually loads more expensive (I think, haven't actually done the sums).
So when the Laguna failed its MOT with a list that spanned two pages, and that didn't even include the engine fault that had developed, my decision was easy. I posted on here that I was after a 940 estate, a good chap replied, we did a deal, and we all live happily ever after.