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On my doorstep.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266865918...Bk9SR-DCz7qFZA

Don’t know it!🧐
Well, had a Quick Look and agree it does look to be a fine thing indeed.👍👍

Owner last changed in 2022, and no previous MOT history since May 2007, I know Alan touched on this issue as not technically required, I can’t exactly recall when the MOT exemption came in. Google indicates 2018, so what exemptions were there before and did this motor qualify??

I understand the financial benefit of not testing, but for me I think I’d prefer to get a second opinion from my local friendly tester, just to cast an eye over any work that has been done and hopefully pick up any ‘oversights’. Not sure if testers can do ‘unofficial’ tests such as braking etc without it showing on system, otherwise I think I’d pay the £50 for peace of mind, extra value if selling.

Afraid an Amazon just doesn’t ’do it’ for me, and somehow I cannot explain why??

Go on Andrew, you know you want it………..

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Well, had a Quick Look and agree it does look to be a fine thing indeed.👍👍

Owner last changed in 2022, and no previous MOT history since May 2007, I know Alan touched on this issue as not technically required, I can’t exactly recall when the MOT exemption came in. Google indicates 2018, so what exemptions were there before and did this motor qualify??

I understand the financial benefit of not testing, but for me I think I’d prefer to get a second opinion from my local friendly tester, just to cast an eye over any work that has been done and hopefully pick up any ‘oversights’. Not sure if testers can do ‘unofficial’ tests such as braking etc without it showing on system, otherwise I think I’d pay the £50 for peace of mind, extra value if selling.

Afraid an Amazon just doesn’t ’do it’ for me, and somehow I cannot explain why??

Go on Andrew, you know you want it………..

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I know what you mean Steve, i'm not an Amazon or 240 fan either. However i do like the 140 and 7xx models.

I also agree with the "£50 for peace of mind" test, garages will do it unofficially but you'll pay time and labour charges that will often exceed the cost of the "official" MoT test unless you have a friendly MoT tester that will charge you the same as for an MoT (or less) and do the same inspection as this car would be subject to if it had an official test.
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If I had the space I more than likely would.

I agree about the MOT thing . If I remember correctly, exemption was just pre-1971 after some government meddling, then it became 40+ years.
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MOT exemption for the Amazon would have been in 2011-2012
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MOT exemption for the Amazon would have been in 2011-2012
Surely that should have been ~2008-2009? It's a 1968 car so would have reached 40 years old in 2008 and (assuming my memory isn't playing tricks) i'm fairly sure the 40 year rule was in place at that time. Back in 2004 i had a 1979 Datsun Skyline C210 that would (under the old rules) have become tax/MoT exempt in 2009 but the rules changed and it wouldnt have been exempt until 2019 - that's why i'm fairly sure i'm correct on the 40 year thing.
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Surely that should have been ~2008-2009? It's a 1968 car so would have reached 40 years old in 2008
The pre 1960 exemption came into play in 2012 and the reason I know is that's when I stopped MOTing my 1947 car.

So with that fact I'm unsure now about the Amazon, possibly 2018 as you said earlier
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Well, had a Quick Look and agree it does look to be a fine thing indeed.👍👍

Owner last changed in 2022, and no previous MOT history since May 2007, I know Alan touched on this issue as not technically required, I can’t exactly recall when the MOT exemption came in. Google indicates 2018, so what exemptions were there before and did this motor qualify??

I understand the financial benefit of not testing, but for me I think I’d prefer to get a second opinion from my local friendly tester, just to cast an eye over any work that has been done and hopefully pick up any ‘oversights’. Not sure if testers can do ‘unofficial’ tests such as braking etc without it showing on system, otherwise I think I’d pay the £50 for peace of mind, extra value if selling.

Afraid an Amazon just doesn’t ’do it’ for me, and somehow I cannot explain why??

Go on Andrew, you know you want it………..

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I think I remember that there was a previous historic vehicle registration scheme which applied to vehicles over 25 years old that operated in the 80s and 90s. I’m pretty sure it was abolished by the last incoming Labour administration, so I think that must have been in 1997 (Mr Blair’s government). If I have remembered correctly then that would have applied to about 1972 and earlier vehicles - so perhaps this Amazon qualified under that scheme?

Now, I can’t remember whether the cars that had already qualified for the tax exemption before 1997 kept the concession when the scheme was abolished, nor can I recall whether it exempted vehicles from MoT testing as well as from tax.

I’m sorry this is all a bit vague Steve -indeed this may be a wild-goose chase.

I think you are right that the current historic vehicle scheme started in 2018 when over 40 year old no needed a MoT- although I think the tax free bit started a few years earlier 2016 rings a bell. I forget the details, but for some reason the tax and MoT exemptions came into law from different directions, I think the tax bit was a UK initiative whereas the MoT exemption came from an EU directive.

You know my feelings on MoT testing historic vehicles Steve, I think it is a waste of time and money (which is why I don’t bother with GAM or my small Honda). I remember taking the RB for its last MoT before becoming an historic vehicle and having to show the young tester how a manual choke worked - plus do an Italian tune-up to clear the motor from having been left ticking with the choke on fully. That episode convinced me I’d discover nothing more that I already knew about my older vehicles by paying some young chap to MoT test them.

Just my thoughts.

Addendum: I’ve just done some research on the internet and can see the 1980s scheme only gave an exemption from tax, not MoT testing. The MoT exemption only applied to pre-1960 vehicles and didn’t roll forward. Bearing this in mind, the Amazon in question can’t have become MoT exempt until 2018 - so it may have had a few years resting under the apple tree prior to that.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266865918...Bk9SR-DCz7qFZA

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Sigh.. that is lovely.. said the skint romantic without a garage..
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