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Did Volvo change suspension parts during the P3 era?

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Old Sep 11th, 2023, 02:09   #1
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Default Did Volvo change suspension parts during the P3 era?

I have a generic question, because I'm a bit confused after having driven a 2012 V60 R-Design a few times, because it was noticeably softer to drive than my own 2016 R-Design.

Did they change any suspension parts at the same time as the facelift? Cars were equipped with the same rims and tyres.

Two main differences is the mileage (mine has half the mileage as the 2012) and the 2012 was a D2 while mine is the T3, but I can't imagine that being significant here.
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I have a generic question, because I'm a bit confused after having driven a 2012 V60 R-Design a few times, because it was noticeably softer to drive than my own 2016 R-Design.

Did they change any suspension parts at the same time as the facelift? Cars were equipped with the same rims and tyres.

Two main differences is the mileage (mine has half the mileage as the 2012) and the 2012 was a D2 while mine is the T3, but I can't imagine that being significant here.
There are many many different springs, dampers, bushes, anti-roll bars for that platform over the years. Tyres can make a big difference too !
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There are many many different springs, dampers, bushes, anti-roll bars for that platform over the years. Tyres can make a big difference too !
The point about tyres is why I stressed that it was both the same rims and tyres. (18" ixion, even the same variant, Goodyear Eagle F1 235/40/18). The 2012 I tested was softer but still firm. It was as if it wasn't as much bothered by less smooth surfaces, while in mine you can quite noticeably feel (and see, mostly due to the heated wind shield ) that it wiggles a lot left and right.

I am not as bothered by this itself, but driving two cars with supposedly the same chassis behaving so different raises a few questions... if the behavior of mine is normal, I can easily live with it, but if it's not I have a feeling I need to investigate in case something is off that actually needs attention.

I can of course not rule out that the shocks on the 2012 has been changed earlier and that a previous owner used standard after market ones that were softer, or would the shocks HAVE to match the springs? (because the 2012 is definitely lower than non-sports chassis)
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Old Sep 11th, 2023, 16:13   #4
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In interested in any experience of softer rides!

I've just change our other car over to Bilsteins and it's helped, but they don't seem to list for my V60 model.
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Got the opportunity to test another 2012 today. It was still a softer ride than mine, so I now know there's something different between those cars and mine (also 18" ixion, different tyres though). I think i will have to see if I can find one closer to my manufacture date for a final comparison before I investigate any further.

Again, not really looking for faults, just a bit surprised that there's such big differences between cars that supposedly are the same and the curious and investigative part of me just wants to know why (And because of the slight chance there may be something going on such as an imbalance that I want to address before something becomes very expensive, but from experience just handing it to a workshop to find out does not really help much... they did insist for ages that my transmission shifted normally, allthough it did not.. luckily sorted and didn't require any actual repairs that one only a re-adaptation of a few shifts because of incorrect use of transmission fluid earlier)
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Check tyre pressures, makes huge difference in ride quality on my XC60.
I got it back after a service and it felt like they had swapped the shocks. Turned out that they put 2.7 barr in the tyres. Normal load needs 2.4 bar all around, but I run 2.1 Front and 2 in the Rears and the improvement in ride quality is significant.
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According to the users manual of the V60, 2.3 is the absolute minimum for my car. I had filled them at 2.6 bar but did lower to 2.3. It's indeed softer, but still different enough to keep my interest about investigating this alive. But lowering to 2.3 did indeed improve the overall comfort. I am still thinking of "downgrading" from 18" to 16" because I do not really like the feel of the car pulling to the sides due to road wear, which I guess would make it even more comfortable but according to many it would completely ruin the looks of the otherwise sleek R-Design styling...

I still feel I need to test one car closer to the manufacturing year of my own, but there aren't many R-designs around from that model year for sale (nor do I know anyone who has one) so I keep checking out various dealerships to see if one shows up that I can take for a test drive.

(Yeah, I know I know.. I am probably easily the most difficult car owner in history... fully self-aware on that matter!)
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According to the users manual of the V60, 2.3 is the absolute minimum for my car. I had filled them at 2.6 bar but did lower to 2.3. It's indeed softer, but still different enough to keep my interest about investigating this alive. But lowering to 2.3 did indeed improve the overall comfort. I am still thinking of "downgrading" from 18" to 16" because I do not really like the feel of the car pulling to the sides due to road wear, which I guess would make it even more comfortable but according to many it would completely ruin the looks of the otherwise sleek R-Design styling...
Did you change the wheels to 16”? What was the impact?
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