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Nov 2nd, 2013, 18:52 | #1 |
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Do diesels rule?
I'm writing this in attempt to get a bit of 'positive spin' out of my bad diesel V50 experience
I own a V50 2.0D Powershift. While it's been visiting the other Volvos at the dealership (mine is a very lonely car so it spends a lot of time there), I've been driving a Peugeot 207, loaned to me by said dealer. What we have here is a newish, small, manual petrol car with about 30,000km on the clock. I've been driving it for about 5 weeks and to date it's recorded an average fuel consumption of 6.2 l/100km. Being manual, it's not suited to city driving because you're continually having to rummage around in its guts looking for a suitable gear. Being petrol, there's no torque worth mentioning (this really becomes apparent when you pull out to overtake and then find that you're actually 'all done' in the power department) and having a capacity of some 1400 - 1600cc, this compounds the problem further. All in all, a bad combination. Now factor in the chances of walking away from it in the event of a crash.... well frankly, I'd really rather be in my Volvo. Interestingly, when my Volvo is not 'broken', it manages around 7.2 l/100km under the same driving conditions (route). Given that it weighs about half a ton more, has a bigger engine and an automatic transmission, it's actually not bad at all! And of course when when you pull out to overtake, there's ample power to get the job done So yes, in my opinion, diesels do rule!
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Nov 2nd, 2013, 19:05 | #2 |
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Look at it this way, you'll be glad to get out of the Pug when your car is fixed. The 2.0D is a good lump, and for a smallish fee (if you want to this is) can be sooooo much better.
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Nov 2nd, 2013, 19:31 | #3 |
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Sadly, Polestar is not an option on my car, I already checked
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Nov 4th, 2013, 08:49 | #4 | |
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I've owned 2 diesels in my rather long list of car ownership, both were great when they were running, getting 35-45mpg, but they were frequently needing something fixed in or around the engine, it became such a chore and dropped the enjoyment and increased the cost of ownership. My petrols have never left me stranded, never gone into limp mode and make a much better sound. My current S60 2.5T returns 26mpg on my commute into London and I bet does all the things you say diesels are good for...better. Sorry, just stirring, but the argument as to whether diesels rule or not is very subjective, you yourself have had problems which for me would immediately be a big black mark against it, 5 weeks without your own car is unacceptable in my opinion. |
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Nov 4th, 2013, 10:34 | #5 |
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Generally speaking if you want a strong, cheap to run, reliable engine, buy a diesel.
If you want something to thrash about, don't care if its reliable or cheap to run, buy a petrol. HGV, busses, trains, cruise ships etc dont use petrol engines, they use diesels, the reasons why are pretty obvious IMO ... Q. Do diesels rule? A. Most of the time. |
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Also your suggestion about why to buy a petrol is wrong, why would anyone not care if its reliable? Heck, I bought my 528i because I knew being a Beemer it would be reliable, which would offset the cost of petrol, and it did, only oil changes, nothing else went wrong. And you're reasoning for buying a diesel goes against the general acceptance, diesels are not reliable engines, they need more maintenance, again, only if you do moon miles does it even out. On here, VAG, BMW, Ford, from what I have read on the numerous forums, and experience with VAG and Vauxhall, diesels do have more problems. Last edited by krisby; Nov 4th, 2013 at 10:47. |
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Nov 4th, 2013, 12:24 | #7 |
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Take a look at Shark Performance, BSR to name a couple.
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Nov 4th, 2013, 14:27 | #9 | |
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I'm just going on my own experience too, my Toledo 1.9Tdi was in the garage numerous times over the 10000miles I owned it, excluding general maintenance, but for engine issues it must have been 5 times, MAF, Turbo, MAF again, EGR, and my Vectra SRi same thing, EGR, ICV, Lambda sensor, MAF, I was fed up with them always being in the garage to "fix" an immediate problem, whereas with my petrols I always put them in the garage for preventative maintenance. Just personal experience I guess, but I've never had an unreliable petrol car. |
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Nov 4th, 2013, 17:34 | #10 |
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what shocks me
the fuel this little peugeot uses 6.2 miles per litre, goodness my 19 year old 940 turbo petrol can manage that.
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