Engine: D5: 163bhp v 185bhp

[wirralepcs]

I have a 2002 D5 SE with a 2401cc engine and 163bhp. There is nothing much wrong with it but as MOT time approaches I am conscious that it may not meet exhaust emission criteria.
I would like to buy a later model ( although it may not necessarily rule out exhaust emission failure ) which is a 2007 D5 SE with a 2401cc engine but I notice the bhp is 185bhp.
What is the difference in terms of exhaust emission, fuel consumption, no of gears, etc? Also, how do you identify the bhp without seeing any paperwork?

[cheshired5]

Euro 3 with no DPF passes the smoke density test much more easily than a D5 with a DPF as the rules are more relaxed for non DPF.

If you're worried about passing emissions and you like your current car, stick with it.

[northernblue]

What he ^^^ says 👍

[wirralepcs]

Originally Posted by cheshired5

Euro 3 with no DPF passes the smoke density test much more easily than a D5 with a DPF as the rules are more relaxed for non DPF.

If you're worried about passing emissions and you like your current car, stick with it.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand the logic here. If "Euro 3 with no DPF" is the 2007 car, which I assume it is, then surely it contradicts the next paragraph?

[stuart bowes]

emissions standards:
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/e...ons-standards/

the older car is the Euro 3, from what I understand the newer car would be euro 4

incidentally there was some discussion and useful info about engine types here:
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=316411

[cheshired5]

Originally Posted by wirralepcs

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand the logic here. If "Euro 3 with no DPF" is the 2007 car, which I assume it is, then surely it contradicts the next paragraph?

Your assumption is incorrect and what I said still applies.
Euro 3 D5 with no DPF is what you currently have and I'm recommending you keep based on your concerns in your original post.
The MOT emissions test is a smoke density test which it passes very easily as an amount of smoke is allowed within certain criteria.

A 2007 will be a Euro 4 D5 with a DPF and stricter emissions rules for MOT i.e. No visible smoke allowed.

[Bashy]

All i know is, the 185 WILL use a fair bit more in fuel.
my extra urban is under 30mpg, i can get it just over 35mpg as long as i drive like Morgan Freeman. Drive like i really want to im looking at mid 20's...

Ive see posts where the 163 does late 40's, i think it was, it matches my old Laguna...

Tax is about £29 a month.
Insurance about £24 a month with max NCD 20+ years (only 9 years are useable)

[T5R92011]

My Euro 3, with a dodgy injector, boost leaks, a slightly sticky caliper and 430,000 miles is currently averaging 39.8 MPG.

I still find the engine nicely powerful, even though there's no way its putting out the full 163bhp or 340nm with the abforementioned issues.

Euro 3 is the place to be.

[wirralepcs]

Originally Posted by Bashy

All i know is, the 185 WILL use a fair bit more in fuel.

Won't this be down to the transmission being automatic?

[S60D5-185]

I've had 3 D5's over the last 12 years.

2 were 185 E4 and 1 was a 163 E3.

Whilst neither of the 185's have ever given me a problem with the DPF, I would still prefer the simplicity of the E3 engine .

If I could have an E3 D5 in my 2007 XC90 it would in my opinion make a good car better.👍