More major issues with LPG conversion from Classicswede ....

[bongodave]

Originally Posted by classicswede

A couple of points Rob has missed off here

when the car came back the engine was off the dip stick and took over 3lts of oil to bring it back to the max mark. It had only covered a couple of hundred miles maximum on that oil.
The head is badly gummed up with thick carbon and a engine rebuild has been on the cards since day.
Compression is down to around 100psi on each cylinder (dry) on my tester so is already very low. My tester is not the best so could be out a little.

The first tank did after making adjustments did around 150 miles including a lot of stationary setup time. Something has to have changed for it to be using so much more fuel now. If it was just rich running then the engine would be chugging and kangarooing with the excessive fuel.

The offer is there to take the system off for a full refund of the conversion.

Same old excuses. Be nice to do right by this guy tho eh? Are you (personally) on LPG register and are your conversions also on the register?

[bongodave]

Swede, you are breaking the law if fitting LPG without registration.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg387.pdf

http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/advice-and-information/faqs/

It invalidates the insurance and puts the driver at risk. I have found your details and forwarded them to relevant authorities, informing them you are fitting LPG, so hopefully you will soon be legal. Presuming youreach required standards of course.

Both threads pertaining to your work have also been forwarded to help them decide best course of action.

Clearly, if you are as good as your claims and are operating legally,this won't be a problem, merely affirmation.

[classicswede]

Originally Posted by bongodave

Swede, you are breaking the law if fitting LPG without registration.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg387.pdf

http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/advice-and-information/faqs/

It invalidates the insurance and puts the driver at risk. I have found your details and forwarded them to relevant authorities, informing them you are fitting LPG, so hopefully you will soon be legal. Presuming youreach required standards of course.

Both threads pertaining to your work have also been forwarded to help them decide best course of action.

Clearly, if you are as good as your claims and are operating legally,this won't be a problem, merely affirmation.

I take it you read the HSE link that clearly shows that I am fully autherised to work on LPG systems. This has been covered before.

[bongodave]

Originally Posted by classicswede

I take it you read the HSE link that clearly shows that I am fully autherised to work on LPG systems. This has been covered before.

Good. What's the name registered and where?

[bongodave]

Copy of email sent to Autogas@uklpg.org TODAY 17/01/2014

May I suggest anyone else with complaints about this 'Installer' goes the same route and contacts above email, referencing this one. If Swede is doing everything as he claims, and is registered as he claims, there will be no problem. This is nota witch-hunt, simply ascertaining facts and making official checks.

Hi,

I am a member of a Volvo forum and a number of complaints have come to light about an LPG installer, claiming to be registered, doing unsafe work which has damaged vehicles and caused huge upset.

One individual who was acting on behalf of a Volvo owner this 'mechanic' installed LPG for actually died after a long, stressful battle.

The installers full details and website are below. I am confident the forum will comply with any inquiry into this chap, as he clearly needs investigating. The blame for his shoddy work and un-fit systems is always put back on to the client, who has paid in the thousands for what they thought was an approved job.

I will send a copy of ths mail to them so they know what is transpiring. If you could please keep me updated with what is happening I would be grateful. Any installer claiming to be working officially, and approved by you guys, yet carrying out work of this standard should surely be investigated thoroughly.

His webpage details with full contact:

http://www.classicswede.com/home.html

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you can act before more people are stung. These are certainly not isolated incidents.

Kind regards,

Dave Wainwright.

[k9plums]

Originally Posted by bongodave

Copy of email sent to Autogas@uklpg.org TODAY 17/01/2014

May I suggest anyone else with complaints about this 'Installer' goes the same route and contacts above email, referencing this one. If Swede is doing everything as he claims, and is registered as he claims, there will be no problem. This is nota witch-hunt, simply ascertaining facts and making official checks.

Hi,

I am a member of a Volvo forum and a number of complaints have come to light about an LPG installer, claiming to be registered, doing unsafe work which has damaged vehicles and caused huge upset.

One individual who was acting on behalf of a Volvo owner this 'mechanic' installed LPG for actually died after a long, stressful battle.

The installers full details and website are below. I am confident the forum will comply with any inquiry into this chap, as he clearly needs investigating. The blame for his shoddy work and un-fit systems is always put back on to the client, who has paid in the thousands for what they thought was an approved job.

I will send a copy of ths mail to them so they know what is transpiring. If you could please keep me updated with what is happening I would be grateful. Any installer claiming to be working officially, and approved by you guys, yet carrying out work of this standard should surely be investigated thoroughly.

His webpage details with full contact:

http://www.classicswede.com/home.html

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you can act before more people are stung. These are certainly not isolated incidents.

Kind regards,

Dave Wainwright.

Am I missing something here, a member on this forum has fitted an lpg kit and the owner had a problem that stressed him so much that he died? not making light of anybody dying, but that seems a bit strong to put in an official email to someone.

[bongodave]

Originally Posted by classicswede

I take it you read the HSE link that clearly shows that I am fully autherised to work on LPG systems. This has been covered before.

You are not registered with the official, governing body. Are you?

Hi Mr Wainright,

Thank you for your email and for bringing this to our attention. A look through our records has shown me that Classic Swede are not and have never been Approved Installers so I can confirm this to you.

I have had a look at their website and while this installer has nowhere advertised himself as an approved installer, if they are indeed informing customers that they are, this is something which we can look into.

I have forwarded your email onto my manager who deals with technical and safety issues.

If you or others would be able to provide any more specific information regarding specific incidents, and instances where they have posed as UKLPG Approved, this would be most helpful.

Best regards


Autogas Administration
UKLPG

I have screen printed this thread, and the other one where you messed up a car, blamed him, fitted cheaper parts etc etc etc.

I encourage anyone who has had unfortunate dealings with you to contact me so we can build a case.

[cumbrianmale]

Dave

Dai has never claimed to be a member of uklpg. You are not a customer of his to our knowledge, what you do in your own time is your business but I'm telling you now to cease and desist with these threads on the forum or you will be removed.

[bongodave]

Originally Posted by cumbrianmale

Dave

Dai has never claimed to be a member of uklpg. You are not a customer of his to our knowledge, what you do in your own time is your business but I'm telling you now to cease and desist with these threads on the forum or you will be removed.

Please feel free. This will also be passed on. Dai (mate or not) has bodged aload of cars, upset a lot of people, took their money, blamed them for bodge and is both advocated and supported by the mods as an officialtrader on here.

All the relevant threads, comments (including yours) complaints etc have been scrprt and saved. Make no mistake I am not only going to authorities, but also making it clear virally, that this forum management is supporting crooked traders.

I would make assumptions about old-boy-networks, but the op of this thread, and others, have been messaged with clear evidence of what has transpired.

Feel free to remove me. I have the proof to hand now and your responses will only back my case. You encourage your members to be ripped-off, cars damaged and lied to. Shame on you!

Regards.

Dave.

[foggyjames]

Originally Posted by bongodave

Swede, you are breaking the law if fitting LPG without registration.

I'm not remotely trying to defend Dai's position...but...my understanding is that you are incorrect on that point...

An installer is not legally obliged to be part of the UKLPG accreditation scheme, and a car does not have to be on the UKLPG register (which requires at least certification by an approved installer) to be allowed on the road. However, you are likely to face restrictions in terms of who will insure your car if it is not on the register. The details are here: http://www.uklpg.org/about-uklpg/ukl...ed-installers/

There is, of course, the question of why you wouldn't want to be registered, which I'm unclear on...or (if this is correct - I don't know) why you would claim to be approved whilst not being...

cheers

James