Suspension: FK Coilovers.

[skyship007]

Originally Posted by Antz

rubbish.....complete and utter rubbish. You dont need special tools to cut springs, just a vice, an angle grinder and enough brains to work the two tools (but not enoguh to realise that cutting springs in todays day and age isnt really very sensible).

Not really sure what your insurance will say. They never say "ohhh did you mod this yourself? you naughty boy" they jsut ask if its modified and were they done to a satisfactory standard. I do 95% of my own mods and my insurance has never grumbled about it. The only people likely to grumble are the DVLA when you do your own engien conversion. Even then it onyl requires a piece of paper from a proper mechanic to say "this was done to a safe standard". Job done.

As your signature says, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH because you do say some very elaborate and mindboggling sometimes Mr Skyship.

As pikey as its sounds, cutting springs whilst frowned upon (i dont like them) isnt illegal or technically unsafe. No one has ever died from cutting their own springs and even now, its a cost effective way to go low for no money. Some cars dont have aftermarket lowering kits or they dont go low enough so cutting is the only option.

Not my preferred method to do things but a car wont fail an MOT for being on cut springs.

The MOT does not matter in this case, as it's simply an undeclared Mod that has a potential to interfere with the cars handling. If it's not approved in writing with an exact description of what has been done to the springs (Very difficult to get an insurance company to approve a non standard Mod part), then in legal terms they can easily dodge an insurance claim or even find you liable for gross negligence.
The invalid policy game would be based on failure to describe the vehicle correctly, although I suppose if you could prove the resulting ride height and performance of the cut spring was in limits, it might be possible to dodge that one, with expensive expert help.

Never fully trust an insurance company unless you have a no questions agreed value policy direct from Lloyds of London. Some of the cheaper ones say yes to everything to retain a customer, then no to anything non standard afterwards if there is a claim. If you DIY a spring chop job, I can almost guarantee some kind of trouble if you make an insurance claim, although it might just be limited to not paying for your own loss if you have fully comp. They will do that for a spelling mistake sometimes, but will have real fun over a spring bodge job.

[Antz]

Who ever said about not declaring mods?

Youve obviously never had any experience with declaring a modified car to an insurance company as you know absolutely NOTHING about the process, how it works and how they approach insuring a modified car.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall with you. You never listen and type away massive essays banging on about insurance declarations, oil contaminations, anyone who mods a car is dangerous, a cheapskate, boy racer who know nothing about cars and doesnt declare things to their insurance and TUV approved BS when they have absolutely no influence on the original topic in hand. There really is no talking to you or trying to engage in a sensible conversation that doesnt end up with you yammering on about utter bollocks.

Thanks for pointing out my typing mistakes. Sometimes my fingers get ahead of themselves and jumble up the letters in a word as Im typing.

Back on topic. FK Coilovers on a road car?......dont bother. They are trash as others have said.

[gazO2V40T4]

Originally Posted by Antz

Not my preferred method to do things but a car wont fail an MOT for being on cut springs.

Not entirely true Antz

If the spring falls from it's seats and doesn't relocate itself then sadly it's a fail the only way around this is to also fit shorter stroke shocks but as you mentioned in your post I don't think chopped springs have caused any deaths or serious accidents

[Dog_Book]

Originally Posted by Antz

Who ever said about not declaring mods?

You've obviously never had any experience with declaring a modified car to an insurance company as you know absolutely NOTHING about the process, how it works and how they approach insuring a modified car.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall with you. You never listen and type away massive essays banging on about insurance declarations, oil contamination's, anyone who mods a car is dangerous, a cheapskate, boy racer who know nothing about cars and doesn't declare things to their insurance and TUV approved BS when they have absolutely no influence on the original topic in hand. There really is no talking to you or trying to engage in a sensible conversation that doesn't end up with you yammering on about utter bollocks.

Thanks for pointing out my typing mistakes. Sometimes my fingers get ahead of themselves and jumble up the letters in a word as I'm typing.

Back on topic. FK Coil overs on a road car?......don't bother. They are trash as others have said.

I've corrected your grammar and spelling, thank me later
I'd take your time when replying to the insurance TUV oil god.

[skyship007]

Originally Posted by Dog_Book

I've corrected your grammar and spelling, thank me later
I'd take your time when replying to the insurance TUV oil god.

If a woman wants to do a rush job, it's a free world. Not so sure about the legal implications of not spellin engine correctly yet.

Declarations to an insurance company have little legal meaning, it is the reply that matters. If they get nasty over a claim the exact legal meaning of every word can make a real difference, so you need to use a good auto engineering dictionary, just in case a cut is confused with a grind off job, or even a real good Oxy BJ. Some types of steel even need to be annealed again after cutting to avoid making them brittle or subject to fatigue cracks.

Letters from other parties saying the work is OK, are a true legal nightmare. More legal loop holes than a colander!

I've not looked at the type of springs used for V40's, but this is one common warning:

A coil spring with tangential ends is the only type of coil spring that may safely be cut (Check definition, might be an angle grinder) to lower a car. Do not cut a coil spring with square ends or pigtail ends.

[Antz]

Originally Posted by Dog_Book

I've corrected your grammar and spelling, thank me later.
I'd take your time when replying to the insurance TUV oil god.

Originally Posted by skyship007

Not so sure about the legal implications of not spelling engine correctly yet.

Grammar Nazi's.

I type very quickly and don't always re-read what I type to correct any spelling mistakes. We aren't all perfectly literate and 100% accurate in our spelling and grammar all the time.

Oh and by the way. Both the above quotes corrected for spelling and grammar. You asked for it.

Owned bitches.

[Dog_Book]

Originally Posted by Antz

Grammar Nazi's.

I type very quickly and don't always re-read what I type to correct any spelling mistakes. We aren't all perfectly literate and 100% accurate in our spelling and grammar all the time.

Oh and by the way. Both the above quotes corrected for spelling and grammar. You asked for it.

Owned bitches.

Can't we just organise a Volvo owners club trip to see Pooship and drown him in oil of varying specs?

[martin_r_smith]

Originally Posted by Dog_Book

Can't we just organise a Volvo owners club trip to see Pooship and drown him in oil of varying specs?

Non oem oil...aaaaarrgghhhh!!!!

[Dog_Book]

Originally Posted by martin_r_smith

Non oem oil...aaaaarrgghhhh!!!!

Whoops sorry my bad, ill go back to my Vectra and fit the braided brake lines :P