Original Volvo Wipers

[37 RUBY]

Originally Posted by Halichopter

Thanks Ruby. It makes sense to go to the effort of a full cleaning before I buy new wipers. I will try this first.

No problem. Please update us if you are successful.

Just to emphasise the use of a scourer. It must NOT be new. It should be so worn your hand cannot feel any coarseness at all. Also you must NOT press on it, just hold it and wipe across the screen with the TFR on the screen. If you don't heed this fine scratches will be introduced to the screen.

The purpose of the scourer is to gently break the surface tension of the wax on the windscreen.

[37 RUBY]

Originally Posted by Clan

Be careful with TFR it stains the alloy trims on volvos !

Good advice.

I don't use it anywhere else, not even on bodywork. Too caustic. Also don't let it dry, especially on plastics. Rinse off as soon as applied.

[green van man]

I use TFR as a degreaser on engine parts, it has been known to take the skin off your hands. It's how I clean the landrover engine bay, spray neat TFR around using a garden spray bottle then wash off with the preasure washer.
Have tried it on windscreens but without success, not used the scourer I admit which may be the reason for my failier.
The volvo screen wash I find very good at preventing streaks, in fact so good I use nothing else in any of my cars.

Paul.

[Ian21401]

Originally Posted by green van man

I use TFR as a degreaser on engine parts, it has been known to take the skin off your hands. It's how I clean the landrover engine bay, spray neat TFR around using a garden spray bottle then wash off with the preasure washer.
Have tried it on windscreens but without success, not used the scourer I admit which may be the reason for my failier.
The volvo screen wash I find very good at preventing streaks, in fact so good I use nothing else in any of my cars.

Paul.

That garden spray bottle. Is it one of the pump up to pressurise types?
I ask because I used one for Waxoyl under the caravan and one for Cuprinol on one of our sheds but didn’t scrupulously clean them afterwards. Cheap ones from Asda garden section. The rubber washer/“O” ring in the pump went soft and deformed so didn’t work next time. I had great trouble finding replacements of the correct size. The ones in my stock of “O” rings were either the wrong ID or the wrong OD or the wrong section. I eventually managed to obtain replacement washers from a specialist supplier who searched out the correct size in a material which, they said, would not be affected by the fluids that I was using. Not sure how they will stand the test of time though.

[green van man]

Originally Posted by Ian21401

That garden spray bottle. Is it one of the pump up to pressurise types?
I ask because I used one for Waxoyl under the caravan and one for Cuprinol on one of our sheds but didn’t scrupulously clean them afterwards. Cheap ones from Asda garden section. The rubber washer/“O” ring in the pump went soft and deformed so didn’t work next time. I had great trouble finding replacements of the correct size. The ones in my stock of “O” rings were either the wrong ID or the wrong OD or the wrong section. I eventually managed to obtain replacement washers from a specialist supplier who searched out the correct size in a material which, they said, would not be affected by the fluids that I was using. Not sure how they will stand the test of time though.

Yes it's a pump up Hozelock one.
I have found this also with things like Duck oil, cheap trigger spray bottles last 2 minuits before they stop spraying. Suppose that's why Duck oil bottles are £6 each.
That was why I spent the money on a Hozelock, £12 or so in a local discount store. Been useing it for a year now with no problem functionally though I notice some rust on the plunger rod on the weekend when I used it, so it may not be long for this world.

I use Dinatrol rather than wax oil and baught a wax application gun that works off the compressor, just short of £100 but we'll worth the money as it makes the job so much simpler.

Paul.

[Ian21401]

Thanks Paul.
The “O” ring problem could well due to the cheapness of the sprayers but the replacement rings I obtained appear to be working at the moment. Famous last words. I’m just using up the last of my Waxoyl as required and using aerosol sprays of “Supertrol” to spot treat areas when working on the car. Brake pipes and unions and body seams and stuff like that. I don’t have a compressor. I’ve seen the ads for “dynax UC” by Bilt Hamber or Corrolan” by Rustbuster after treating any rust area with Rustbuster’s FE 123 but haven’t bought any yet.
Is Rustbuster the same is Dinitrol?

[green van man]

Originally Posted by Ian21401

Thanks Paul.
The “O” ring problem could well due to the cheapness of the sprayers but the replacement rings I obtained appear to be working at the moment. Famous last words. I’m just using up the last of my Waxoyl as required and using aerosol sprays of “Supertrol” to spot treat areas when working on the car. Brake pipes and unions and body seams and stuff like that. I don’t have a compressor. I’ve seen the ads for “dynax UC” by Bilt Hamber or Corrolan” by Rustbuster after treating any rust area with Rustbuster’s FE 123 but haven’t bought any yet.
Is Rustbuster the same is Dinitrol?

Not sure.
Dinatrol has been used as a rustproofer in the north Sea oil rigs for 40 years according to the add blurb. It sprays well and covers generously but needs 90 psi air preasure for best results. I used economies of scale and baught 12 litres for £110. Have given the inside of the landrover chassis 2 very generous coats and 2 lighter coats on the outside, have sprayed body cavities generously and still have 8 litres left for underbody and the volvo .
Test areas on the volvo show it to stand up to Road abrasion very well but I would expect to have to respray every 3 or 4 years in high wear areas, mud flaps would hopefully extent that time. Just waiting for time and dry weather to do both the landrover and volvo. Want to do them at the same time as it's one mess to clean, though my gun gives very directable spray patern so very little waste.

Paul.

[laundryman]

Originally Posted by Clan

i have a white car i have had for many years , i only use it occasionally so it is parked for a couple of weeks outside sometimes in a rural location .... I do wash it very regularly ... in the last year or so i have noticed that when i wash it without going anywhere since the last wash the foamy water releases black deposits in the water as the sponge is used ... no doubt this is the infamous diesel pollution which people are concerned about these days .. This has only appeared in the last year or so , none what so ever in the last decade or so ....

Be careful with TFR it stains the alloy trims on volvos !

Reading an article a couple of months ago and the crap in the air in the cities is mainly rubber, stone dust from the tarmac and brake pad dust. Like you, i thought it would be carbon, but DPFs etc seem to have reduced that!

[green van man]

Originally Posted by laundryman

Reading an article a couple of months ago and the crap in the air in the cities is mainly rubber, stone dust from the tarmac and brake pad dust. Like you, i thought it would be carbon, but DPFs etc seem to have reduced that!

So what fuels the vehicle is largly irrelevant.

Paul.

[37 RUBY]

Originally Posted by green van man

So what fuels the vehicle is largly irrelevant.

Paul.

Well my experience of that is completely different.

I work in Sheffield city, parking up at the railway station near to sidings and the station taxi rank.
The fumes from idling aged trains and taxis leave a greasy film on the screen then add road film from the journey to and from work.

Hence why the described regime has to be conducted weekly.