Ford vs Volvo quality

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by Thekilt

Mercedes x class too very nice

Nissan based so might even be well made!!

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by Thekilt

Mercedes x class too very nice

You mean the German badged Datsun?

The do look the part though, way out of my budget for a few years though...

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by green van man

Friend has a Ford ranger, had a front wheel bearing pack up. Was cheaper to buy a good second hand hub than try and change the bearing.

These days for a utility vehicle it has to be Toyota, landrover have nothing in the range that is remotely utility and at their prices who's gonna put a bale of hay or the dogs in the back

Mazdas are OK buy I have seen fuel filters knocked off on rough ground off road and heared of 2 that needed new clutches before 7000 miles.. They were brought to a training day and the fuel filter being knocked off caused a whole heap of problems. We had to dig out contaminated soil and then spend an hour superglue ing the housing together for the guys to get home.

Regularly Lane with a lad who drives a Toyota, he is now on his third, chassis rot saw the old one off and unlike old landrovers a new chassis is not a simple job. All have been super reliable mechanically.

Afraid I would avoid rangers like the plague, you are not the first to comment on their build quality and reliability, though they are a nice looking truck. Fine if you want an ornament, not so if you want a tool.

Paul.

Not comfortable reading for someone who has just bought one (me) but you’re right. Fortunately it’s a second vehicle we use at the weekends for lugging straw and horse/donkey sh*t around so it will probably do 6000 miles a year ish. I’ll probably keep it a year then look at swapping it for a hilux or a d-max, maybe an Amorak but the sub 15k examples on the market are mostly very high mileage and/or messed about with.

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

Not comfortable reading for someone who has just bought one (me) but you’re right. Fortunately it’s a second vehicle we use at the weekends for lugging straw and horse/donkey sh*t around so it will probably do 6000 miles a year ish. I’ll probably keep it a year then look at swapping it for a hilux or a d-max, maybe an Amorak but the sub 15k examples on the market are mostly very high mileage and/or messed about with.

I wouldnt worry overly much. Whilst I reckon the Toyota is likely still king, I know many people with Rangers and they use them for everything from grocery getting to hauling trailers and off road work. Nobody has had any significant problems and most shrug their shoulders if it does go wrong saying, its a Ford. I can get it fixed anywhere.

[green van man]

Originally Posted by biggbn

I wouldnt worry overly much. Whilst I reckon the Toyota is likely still king, I know many people with Rangers and they use them for everything from grocery getting to hauling trailers and off road work. Nobody has had any significant problems and most shrug their shoulders if it does go wrong saying, its a Ford. I can get it fixed anywhere.

Agreed George but at what cost.

This is why I hang on to my 26 year old discovery. Parts are cheap and it's easy to fix.

Even oem are now very reasonable.
I bought a service filter pack from All Makes, box said made in Britain, upon opening it all 3 filters were made in china. For £6 more than the chinese filters I can get genuine landrover air filter and oem oil and fuel filters from a LandRover dealer.
£14 for the All Makes Chinese filters or £20 for genuine items. I will happily spend the extra £6 , in fact already have and put on the shelf ready for next service, and know I have fitted good quality filters instead of hoping the chinese ones are built to the correct standard.

Watched a you tube vidio while in lockdown, an American guy testing oil filters and then opening them up to examine the innards. Some shockingly bad results, even from known names that previously I would of trusted.

Any way, how's the new job going, you doing it properly now or still inducting. Grandkids in St Andrews went back Tuesday.

Paul.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Thekilt

Mercedes x class too very nice

Originally Posted by biggbn

Nissan based so might even be well made!!

Nissan has gone to pot the last few years. They're no where near as reliable as they used to be & that's more so since they teamed up with Renault, in my opinion.

The Mercedes X Class has a Renault engine & is based on the Nissan Navara. The Mercedes has a fancier interior than the Navara & they (Mercedes) did a good job at making it look different to the Navara. However, the X Class is just a fancy pickup that has a premium badge with a Renault engine.

Don't be fooled by the looks.

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

Nissan has gone to pot the last few years. They're no where near as reliable as they used to be & that's more so since they teamed up with Renault, in my opinion.

The Mercedes X Class has a Renault engine & is based on the Nissan Navara. The Mercedes has a fancier interior than the Navara & they (Mercedes) did a good job at making it look different to the Navara. However, the X Class is just a fancy pickup that has a premium badge with a Renault engine.

Don't be fooled by the looks.

I'd buy a Nissan over a Mercedes for reliability any day. Merc and BMW seem to be getting terrible reviews over last few years

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by green van man

Agreed George but at what cost.

This is why I hang on to my 26 year old discovery. Parts are cheap and it's easy to fix.

Even oem are now very reasonable.
I bought a service filter pack from All Makes, box said made in Britain, upon opening it all 3 filters were made in china. For £6 more than the chinese filters I can get genuine landrover air filter and oem oil and fuel filters from a LandRover dealer.
£14 for the All Makes Chinese filters or £20 for genuine items. I will happily spend the extra £6 , in fact already have and put on the shelf ready for next service, and know I have fitted good quality filters instead of hoping the chinese ones are built to the correct standard.

Watched a you tube vidio while in lockdown, an American guy testing oil filters and then opening them up to examine the innards. Some shockingly bad results, even from known names that previously I would of trusted.

Any way, how's the new job going, you doing it properly now or still inducting. Grandkids in St Andrews went back Tuesday.

Paul.

First teaching day today Paul, brilliant. Am at a lovely school with a great department 10 minutes from my front door. I'm sure there will.be bad days, and it's crazy the protocols for covid hygiene, but necessary...eats into lesson times.

Hope you are well man, i don't bother.much with forums these days, everything seems to have gotten so bad mannered and ill tempered at times!! Been jogging snd cycling a lot, combined with diet am down from a high of 146kg to 115kg. Looking to get to 107.

[andy_d]

having had a "few" fords many years ago
would Not touch a Modern ford with yours !
whats Gutting is lifting the bonnet on the V50 to find "FoMoCo" parts all over the place

there,ford, now nothing more than ****e on 4 wheels, ,,until they rust or the engine packs up ,

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by andy_d

having had a "few" fords many years ago
would Not touch a Modern ford with yours !
whats Gutting is lifting the bonnet on the V50 to find "FoMoCo" parts all over the place

there,ford, now nothing more than ****e on 4 wheels, ,,until they rust or the engine packs up ,

Never been a Ford fan, excepting the odd old Ka