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Xc60 fault codes with Juddering and hesitation

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Old May 22nd, 2024, 15:56   #1
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Default Xc60 fault codes with Juddering and hesitation

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Does anyone know how to fix these codes and what they mean?

DTC P2009

DTC P025C

DTC P0472

The car is hesitation /juddering, at low revs and low speed. If you’re lightly touching the throttle and Revs are at around 1500

It’s worst from start up with a cold engine and in the warmer weather

I’ve had the Emap pipe changed and no difference

It’s a 2016 d4 fwd 2.0 r design

Thank you

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Old May 22nd, 2024, 22:13   #2
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Hi

Does anyone know how to fix these codes and what they mean?

DTC P2009

DTC P025C

DTC P0472

The car is hesitation /juddering, at low revs and low speed. If you’re lightly touching the throttle and Revs are at around 1500

It’s worst from start up with a cold engine and in the warmer weather

I’ve had the Emap pipe changed and no difference

It’s a 2016 d4 fwd 2.0 r design

Thank you

Simon
Those seem like generic codes from a generic scan tool. A Google search reveals the following;

EGR valve (P2009).

P025C relates to the fuel pump module.

Exhaust pressure sensor sensor doesn't match the intake manifold pressure or ambient air pressure (P0472).

I can't be certain, but I think you have EGR/EGR cooler issues - Common on the D4 engines and it definitely sounds like what other people have experienced when there's problems with the EGR/EGR cooler (the hesitation/stuttering at light throttle). Possibly DPF issues too or sensors that relate to it. Its best to get it properly diagnosed though.

Is this car driven short journeys by any chance, not much motorway driving? If its just short journeys that you do, that won't help the EGR valve. Diesel's don't like town driving.

I'd advise you bring it to a Volvo specialist and get the codes read with proper Volvo diagnostics. Take it from there.
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The car is hesitation /juddering, at low revs and low speed. If you’re lightly touching the throttle and Revs are at around 1500

It’s worst from start up with a cold engine and in the warmer weather
Exact symptoms my 2016 2.0 had, if it's not the EMAP pipe then it'll be EGR. Take it to a garage with proper diagnostic to check.

My local independent was £1500 for valve and cooler fitted. Additional £275 for inlet manifold removal, clean and refit with new gaskets.
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Exact symptoms my 2016 2.0 had, if it's not the EMAP pipe then it'll be EGR. Take it to a garage with proper diagnostic to check.

My local independent was £1500 for valve and cooler fitted. Additional £275 for inlet manifold removal, clean and refit with new gaskets.
Thank you for the reply

And did this sort the problem?
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Those seem like generic codes from a generic scan tool. A Google search reveals the following;

EGR valve (P2009).

P025C relates to the fuel pump module.

Exhaust pressure sensor sensor doesn't match the intake manifold pressure or ambient air pressure (P0472).

I can't be certain, but I think you have EGR/EGR cooler issues - Common on the D4 engines and it definitely sounds like what other people have experienced when there's problems with the EGR/EGR cooler (the hesitation/stuttering at light throttle). Possibly DPF issues too or sensors that relate to it. Its best to get it properly diagnosed though.

Is this car driven short journeys by any chance, not much motorway driving? If its just short journeys that you do, that won't help the EGR valve. Diesel's don't like town driving.

I'd advise you bring it to a Volvo specialist and get the codes read with proper Volvo diagnostics. Take it from there.

Thank you for the reply

It’s mainly town driving with motorway drive only one or twice a week for but only an hour trip!

It’s been to an independent Volvo specialist but they can’t find the fault…
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Old May 24th, 2024, 08:59   #6
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Thank you for the reply

And did this sort the problem?
Yes, but I wouldn't go spending money without a diagnosis, strange that the specialist can't find a fault despite codes being logged. Do they have access to Vida dice, or just generic scan tool? It might be worth handing it to main dealer to be sure, more expensive initially, but could be cheaper in the long run.
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Old May 25th, 2024, 13:14   #7
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Thank you for the reply

It’s mainly town driving with motorway drive only one or twice a week for but only an hour trip!

It’s been to an independent Volvo specialist but they can’t find the fault…
Then they are not a Volvo specialist. A proper Volvo specialist will have up to date Vida diagnostic capability and are usually ex Volvo Master Techs.

If you are keeping the car long term there are tuning places that will do a re-map and EGR delete solution (blanks the stupid thing off so problem does not re-occur). I had a 2016 R-Design VEA like yours, was a nice blue colour and good spec but the dreaded turtle appeared on the dash bringing the juddering you have. Although this was resolved with a new EMAP pipe it made me lose confidence in the car so I looked into the EGR issue and decided it was either re-map and delete or sell up. As I recall the EGR delete was quoted at around £400.

I sold up and bought a D5.

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