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May 23rd, 2024, 05:15 | #1 |
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V70 surprisingly high mpg
Volvo V70 - 2008 - 2.4d - 163 bhp.
I've been driving my V70 in Sweden for the four last years and never managed to get the mpg better than about 43 mpg (imperial), motorway driving. After moving back to northern Norway my mpg increased to 59 mpg. Why the sudden increase? Well,-there's two explanations: -Speed limits on the motorways in Sweden is 110 km/h (68m/h), while in northern Norway the upper limit is 90 km/h (56m/h). So reducing speed seems to help a lot. Another factor is what they call 2+1 roads in Sweden, when on the motorway they alternate between one and two lanes. When there are two lanes in your direction there's one lane in the other and vice versa. It saves money when building roads, but there's a snag: When driving along in the single lane in northern Sweden you're sure to end up behind a truck hauling timber with a speed limit of only 56m/h. So, on a one hour drive you've been accelerating past about ten of those trucks once the road changes to two lanes in your favour. The solution: -Move to Norway. |
May 23rd, 2024, 09:09 | #2 |
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Upper speed limit is definitely a consideration - but indirectly, as it simply translates onto engine revs.
These then are subsequently also lower, and possibly (and very likely) in the examples you quoted do not engage turbo to large extent (which normally contributes to increased fuel consumption). If I remember correctly threshhold sits somewhere between 1,500-1,800 rpms (depending on the exact model, engine etc.). |
May 23rd, 2024, 13:00 | #3 |
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"Upper speed limit is definitely a consideration - but indirectly, as it simply translates onto engine revs."
Don't forget wind resistance in your calculations. It contributes a lot. Personal experience: The only diesel vehicle I ever drove was an ancient Mercedes-Benz sedan (4-door...forget the model) in Sweden on 2+1 roads. Passing the pokey logging trucks with the slow diesel was challenging. |
May 23rd, 2024, 14:12 | #4 |
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Speed is the change. Aerodynamic drag is function of the square of the speed so changing speed makes massive and the main difference.
Engine friction is directly proportional to engine speed to in same gear directly proportional to speed. Some increase in engine pumping losses not directly proportional to speed, also could be slightly richer mixture at higher engine load which reduces engine efficiency. Bottom line is the vehicle speed and aerodynamics is by far biggest change and the reason. |
May 23rd, 2024, 14:49 | #5 |
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I certainly don't discount aerodynamics as such, however I still believe that in the quoted example vehicle turbo - at least in this speed range - is the main contributing factor.
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May 24th, 2024, 11:00 | #6 |
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Ive got a 2015 V70 D4 2.0 VEA engine. The average consumption on my journey to work the other day over 165 miles - mostly motorway was 65.9mpg. I was very early so drove between 55 and 65mph and no traffic on a Saturday morning.
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Jun 10th, 2024, 23:42 | #7 | |
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Although these figures are impressive undoubtedly, I don't see how you're getting 59mpg from a euro 4 diesel engine (even doing less than 60mph on a motorway). That's euro 6 mpg figures from a car with an engine that's many years older and far less fuel efficient than the newer equivalents. I have the same engine in my S80 as your V70 (euro 4) and there's not a chance I'd get 59mpg doing less than 60mph on a motorway. I'd say, being realistic, maybe early 50's (52 ish maybe). It runs like a clock too, so I don't believe the 59mpg you're quoting, not from a euro 4 engine. Sorry. Thanks for sharing all the same.
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Jun 10th, 2024, 23:57 | #8 |
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Colder more dense air ? Diesels like cold air.
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Jun 11th, 2024, 08:41 | #9 |
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My V70 D5 manual CAN be very economical if driven in a certain way. Driving to my daughter's in Lincolnshire (184mile) 99% of it is motorway or uncluttered A roads. I can if I travel at a steady 65mph achieve 55MPG. At 70 mph or fractionally higher I never see better than 47ish.
I put the reduction down to increased air resistance, and at the higher speed bringing in the 2nd bigger turbo, which takes bigger sips of fuel than the smaller one. IIRC someone said 1900-2100rpm was the transition phase. Figures quoted are from the car's computer, not brim to brim fills. Cheers Bob
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