Diesel DPF recall

[Bill_56]

Originally Posted by TiredGeek

I haven't posted for a while, a long while actually, but I have been reading.

Hi TiredGeek,

Glad to see the thread's still alive, there's been so much nonsense and silly science thrown into it recently that I personally lost interest and just can't be bothered answering.

Anybody would think Volvo had agents on the forum, but that would be against the rules, wouldn't it?

Any roads - you have my grateful thanks for bumping the thread, it's good to see it back on page 1. it all helps the cause!

- Bill

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by TiredGeek

I haven't posted for a while, a long while actually, but I have been reading.

The more I read the more my natural cynicism kicks in. I fear that I can see the outcome of any court cases, I think they'll go like this:

Enter court with our one lawyer and present our evidence.

Many expensive Volvo laywers present their evidence.

Court is adjourned for lunch.

ALL laywers and judge meet to have an expensive lunch in the club, discuss their happy memories of school together, have a few bottles of expensive wine, exchange strange handshakes, find that Volvo pick up the tab.

Go back to court, find in the manufacturers favour.

Then all drive off in their brand new, free, petrol engined Volvos.


Sorry, but we're small fish for the companies, they REALLY don't give a t*ss about us. They've got our money, the cars will be long out of warranty before the engine dies, and they'll spend millions defending against any claims.
Joe public will continue to buy diesel cars off them as people will ignore the old problems and think it's all been sorted with the "new" model they're buying.
Volvo is now a Chinese company, looking to sell in a new developing massive market (without stupid "eco fuel" regulations). Frankly they can afford to pull out of Europe completely.
Look at all the bad press Toyota got recently. Now look at all the 10 plate Toyotas you see on the road.......


Lurking again. BTW, Hi Bill, Doc

I don't think that would ever happen as no one buys their car direct from Volvo so a case would always be against a dealer and for a modest amount (difference between costs and current value) that represents actual loss, and so recoverable in a small claims court.

Try looking at a long term owners case history it might cheer you up. I've lost track of the number of members who have come and gone during my 30 years of Volvo ownership. It's common for people to worry about engine durablility but an awful lot of Volvo's outlast their owners. http://www.designnews.com/article/12...lion_Miles.php By the way he's reached 2.8 million miles now.

[RoyMacDonald]

This site might be usful for those who think they were missold DPF equipped cars as it has good info on consumer law and free advice from solicitors if you register and post your issues.......http://swarb.co.uk/phpbb/index.php

There is also usfull info here on your rights........http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/..._you_buy_goods

There are some questions and answers about rights and a faulty vehicle here.......http://swarb.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5943

[dpfcampaign]

hey guys,

i know it may be off topic again to volvo but does anyone know what the regulations are or what policy mazda or vosa have to follow when it comes to recalling their cars?

In my case as you know i had an engine run-away and it is identical to: http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/rec...freeText=Blank

only different is the chassis number, its one letter off - myn started with JMZGH.

Mazda will obviously either not answer my question or say no recall has been carried out. It just seems funny that all these cars got recalled for the same problem but how the hell do they know it wont happen to the other cars as myn was built in the "build end date" notice on the recall.

Roy, thanks for your last post! I have registered and contacted them already. It helped.

[faffi]

Originally Posted by dpfcampaign

Morning.

I want to get my oil test done but do any of you know if my car has been sitting there for 1 year, not been started or moved if this will affect the results in anyway?

Thanks.

Oil will degenerate once it gets into contact with air. Contaminated oil will degenerate more quickly and it will also eat away on the metals inside the engine. However, this should not be significant over the year your car has been parked. I would suggest you take two samples of oil, one from the very bottom of the sump and one from the very top. This is because the fuel and the oil may well have separated and that the metal particles are likely to have dropped to the bottom.

[catch22]

Found this thread on one of my spaced out visits back here, what with me being a Focus owner for the past year. WHY? Well because I've always considered it to be the best motor forum by far on the net. But as I say now back with a Focus my visits are few. Though now and again I do link to some threads here back on the ford forum I frequent, the likes of this one for example.

Anyway like I say I was following this thread with interest, which went up a notch when "The Doc" pitched up on the thread, clever guy or what. Anyway I got about a third of the way in, and I thought bugger it I'll sneek a peek at current progress. Now I noticed "The Doc" has not made a post since post number 352..........bit of an Elephant in the Room that I would have thought, that's gone with out comment .............so it begs the questions has Volvo done a Dr Kelly on him? Or has the pedestal comment sent him into sulk mode. ........Awkward questions I know, but there again coming from me, not to be unexpected

[The Doc]

Hi Catch 22, can't help but be flattered by your comments.

Not in 'sulk mode' per se but it was disappointed that the Forum Administrator allows this type of comment to remain unchallenged. It was evoked because I presented my credentials (unlike anyone else) to rebut an earlier suggestion by someone who said that there was no one on the forum whose opinion was worth more that that of Volvo or a Barrister. Hilarious!!

I have a similar view to Bill56 (6th August 2350hrs) and that is why I have not bothered to contribute.

Some of the stuff on here has done more harm than good, if the objective has been to understand and highlight a very serious problem. However, I have been far from inactive, along with a very small number of others on the forum. But we have elected to do it in other ways, so as to not expose what we are doing to those we don't want to know.

If I remain a Volvo owner (and that is an issue I am considering), then I would have no reluctance to contribute here again on other issues. Solving problems that baffle the auto-industry is what I do for a living.

[catch22]

Doc,though I can understand why many are resigned to the omnipotent power of the Corporate State we live in. Albeit conveniently masquerading as a fully functioning democracy.

Like you, I've never been one for hiding amongst the herd and accepting the status quo. But as you have found there is a price to pay. And yes whilst pointing out that a spade is indeed a spade, it is fair to say you have been perceived by some as being arrogant. Further more, it is self evident you have that trait [I myself am afflicted with] in that you don't suffer fools gladly.

You employ a style of court room logic to your argument, in that you ask the other party to substantiate what they imply or retract the statement. I like it unfortunately some others obviously don't.

Fair to say your wanting to marshal forces to challenge the status quo, yet there are those you rightly see as being defeatists. Then there are members like S60DENI for example you see as being negative, when in fact they are only offering up valid comment.

As a species we have evolved [though others will dispute that statement] attaining great understanding of the world we inhabit.Yet time and again we fail to understand each other.....Funny Old Word isn't it

Anyway, I genuinely hope this thread can pick up the pace again. But if not I wish you and the likes of Bill 56 much success. I for one have thoroughly enjoyed the educational and observational input.

[Fibre]

Has there been any one word answers to this..??

when they did mine [Bells] they told me they had just drained some oil and not to alow it to reach the high mark on the dip stick???

So I put a memo on a sticket ton the engin only to fil to XXXX -- why dont they simply issue newly calibrate dip sticks if that is all that was required??

But I might be wrong - please let me know?

BTW my Vin No is {letters then}714162548876 did it NEED doing
Maurice

[Clan]

Originally Posted by Fibre

Has there been any one word answers to this..??

when they did mine [Bells] they told me they had just drained some oil and not to alow it to reach the high mark on the dip stick???

So I put a memo on a sticket ton the engin only to fil to XXXX -- why dont they simply issue newly calibrate dip sticks if that is all that was required??

But I might be wrong - please let me know?

BTW my Vin No is {letters then}714162548876 did it NEED doing
Maurice

when did you have yours done? they would have lowered the sump level and carried out an engine ECU software upgrade if it was earlier in the year ..
If it was recently they should have done that with yet another upgraded ECU software AND added a sticker under the bonnet indicating the new lower oil level .. A new dipstick would sound logical but at £15 each rather costly i would think ... the latest D3 D4 and D5 engines have an electronic "dipstick" readout on the dash and it flashes if the oil level is too low OR too high ..