Super chuffed with my new hi-spec 240 GLT! - Page 10

john h · Feb 4th, 2011, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Mike_Brace

Probably a glass of red wine in Paul240480's case

Haha! excellent

Paul240480 · Feb 4th, 2011, 21:12

I concur!

lol.

foggyjames · Feb 7th, 2011, 00:47

Pop to the scrap yard and pull a couple of air mass meters and crank position sensors off. The fuel saving of EFI over K-Jet will pay for the bits in a month or two...

Having said that, our K-Jet 740 Limo run was surprisingly efficient...5-up, it was still returning circa 30mpg. It broke down, of course...!

My experience with EFI in production cars (in ~100k of motoring, in various examples) has only been with Motronic 4.4 in x70s, but I've found it to be supremely reliable, and any problems easy to fix provided you have diagnostic kit to hand (£25 eBay code reader, in my case). I've had to replace a couple of air mass meters (which I suspect only failed because of oil from a K&N filter) and a throttle position sensor (which was DOA on a replacement engine).

Don't think I'm against old technology, mind you...I'm a carb man at heart

cheers

James

piemuncher22 · Feb 7th, 2011, 14:54

I've only ever had 1 car with electronice fuel injection fitted, and that was my Range Rover 3.5V8 with a Lucus system fitted I think.
I had no end of trouble with the thing, air flow meters, ECU etc, and if you ask me there's nothing more frustrating than being stuck at the side of the road because a little box of tricks is refusing to work. I should point out that the air flow meter on mine was one of those "flappy type" ones as opposed to the "hot wire" ones which was fitted to the 3.9V8 engine and more reliable i'm told.
I remember being cautious when I bought the volvorine, not another fuel injection system.... and then when I had problems with it (actually nothing wrong with it at all, just the dizzy cap) once again I was terrified that I'd be changing all sorts of bits in the hope that one of them would solve the problem....
When I started looking into however, and with the help of this forum I must say, I realised just how simple the mechanical K type fuel injection system is.
I am an engineer in my day job, and pretty old school. I prefer pumps, valves, pipes and springs - thngs which can be played with, LOOKED AT, adjusted, and in most cases - bodged. If there is a problem with something mechanical it can usually be seen/felt (hole in diaphram, broken spring, blocked pipe) or tested easily (multi meter, injector in jam jar, sensor in a bucket of hot water etc) as opposed to boxes which seemingly go wrong for no particular reason.
Give me a carb any day, but K type system has to be the next best thing for me!!!!
PM22.

OldBlueVolvo · Feb 7th, 2011, 15:21

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Originally Posted by john h

Lots of cleaning and maintenance needed under here!

Great buy. I look forward to seeing what you can do with this. Best of luck.

Steve and his 244 · Feb 7th, 2011, 15:39

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Originally Posted by OldBlueVolvo

Great buy. I look forward to seeing what you can do with this. Best of luck.

Oh dont you worry about that - we'll have it spotless in no time....

On the other hand how many volvo nutters do you think it takes to knack up an oil seal change?!

rusty244 · Feb 7th, 2011, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Steve and his 244

Oh dont you worry about that - we'll have it spotless in no time....

On the other hand how many volvo nutters do you think it takes to knack up an oil seal change?!

Didn't end well then? I hope I won't be included in the number of Volvo nutters taken to knack up the oil seal change!

Mike_Brace · Feb 7th, 2011, 22:23

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Originally Posted by Steve and his 244

Oh dont you worry about that - we'll have it spotless in no time....

On the other hand how many volvo nutters do you think it takes to knack up an oil seal change?!

All goog volvo nutters always have at least one spare lol!

john h · Feb 8th, 2011, 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve and his 244

On the other hand how many volvo nutters do you think it takes to knack up an oil seal change?!

Mmm, thanks for your support Steve (!)

But yes, new oil seal leaking... doing the whole job again... feeling negative towards this car just now...

John

foggyjames · Feb 8th, 2011, 13:31

Which one....front cam seal, by any chance? If so, it'll probably either be because you've pushed the seal in too far (if it's one of the new-style 'narrow' ones...the original Elring ones are deeper, and will only go in to the correct depth)...or it'll be leaking from around the bearing cap mating faces, which need sealing with some RTV. They're sometimes a sod to get to seal properly...

cheers

James

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foggyjames 300 Register Keeper Last Online: Yesterday 15:08 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham	Pop to the scrap yard and pull a couple of air mass meters and crank position sensors off. The fuel saving of EFI over K-Jet will pay for the bits in a month or two... Having said that, our K-Jet 740 Limo run was surprisingly efficient...5-up, it was still returning circa 30mpg. It broke down, of course...! My experience with EFI in production cars (in ~100k of motoring, in various examples) has only been with Motronic 4.4 in x70s, but I've found it to be supremely reliable, and any problems easy to fix provided you have diagnostic kit to hand (£25 eBay code reader, in my case). I've had to replace a couple of air mass meters (which I suspect only failed because of oil from a K&N filter) and a throttle position sensor (which was DOA on a replacement engine). Don't think I'm against old technology, mind you...I'm a carb man at heart cheers James __________________ VOC 300-series Register Keeper '13 V70 D4 SE Lux '89 740 Turbo Intercooler '88 360 Turbo Intercooler '84 360 GLT '81 343 GLS R-Sport '79 343 DL '70 164

Feb 8th, 2011, 13:31	#100
foggyjames 300 Register Keeper Last Online: Yesterday 15:08 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham	Which one....front cam seal, by any chance? If so, it'll probably either be because you've pushed the seal in too far (if it's one of the new-style 'narrow' ones...the original Elring ones are deeper, and will only go in to the correct depth)...or it'll be leaking from around the bearing cap mating faces, which need sealing with some RTV. They're sometimes a sod to get to seal properly... cheers James __________________ VOC 300-series Register Keeper '13 V70 D4 SE Lux '89 740 Turbo Intercooler '88 360 Turbo Intercooler '84 360 GLT '81 343 GLS R-Sport '79 343 DL '70 164

Feb 7th, 2011, 14:54	#94
piemuncher22 Junior Member Last Online: Feb 10th, 2011 10:23 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sussex	I've only ever had 1 car with electronice fuel injection fitted, and that was my Range Rover 3.5V8 with a Lucus system fitted I think. I had no end of trouble with the thing, air flow meters, ECU etc, and if you ask me there's nothing more frustrating than being stuck at the side of the road because a little box of tricks is refusing to work. I should point out that the air flow meter on mine was one of those "flappy type" ones as opposed to the "hot wire" ones which was fitted to the 3.9V8 engine and more reliable i'm told. I remember being cautious when I bought the volvorine, not another fuel injection system.... and then when I had problems with it (actually nothing wrong with it at all, just the dizzy cap) once again I was terrified that I'd be changing all sorts of bits in the hope that one of them would solve the problem.... When I started looking into however, and with the help of this forum I must say, I realised just how simple the mechanical K type fuel injection system is. I am an engineer in my day job, and pretty old school. I prefer pumps, valves, pipes and springs - thngs which can be played with, LOOKED AT, adjusted, and in most cases - bodged. If there is a problem with something mechanical it can usually be seen/felt (hole in diaphram, broken spring, blocked pipe) or tested easily (multi meter, injector in jam jar, sensor in a bucket of hot water etc) as opposed to boxes which seemingly go wrong for no particular reason. Give me a carb any day, but K type system has to be the next best thing for me!!!! PM22.

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