My Amazon Estate Rescue Mission - Page 14

123GT-AMAZON · Dec 11th, 2013, 19:38

o bummer yeah it has happened to me on a set of wheels i think there early wheels that have this issue maybe pre 66 you can buy them still just have to make sure you have some spare for the next time

regards
robert

Derek UK · Dec 11th, 2013, 19:56

I also had the same problem when fitting a pair of 4.5" to the front of my estate. Found that they were 4" but the rears were 4.5". I wanted the plain rim rather than the safety bead type. Found that I also had tubes in so didn't need the valves I bought from Northants tyres. There are only 2 sizes and it's pot luck if a tyre place will have the larger ones. Best to try an old school place rather than the chains.

222s · Dec 11th, 2013, 20:45

IIRC, the correct tyre valve is a TR415 - easily available on ebay.

Using the regular ones that you linked to, but with a washer sounds very dangerous!

Andy the Aussie · Dec 12th, 2013, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by 222s

IIRC, the correct tyre valve is a TR415 - easily available on ebay.

Using the regular ones that you linked to, but with a washer sounds very dangerous!

thats the number i was looking for thanks mate

ref the metal ones - why ?

the washer would be topside not in the rim - the bottom side would need to fit right with the rubber grommet otherwise yes i agree

222s · Dec 12th, 2013, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy the Aussie

ref the metal ones - why ?

the washer would be topside not in the rim - the bottom side would need to fit right with the rubber grommet otherwise yes i agree

Because the ones in your link are for the regular size valve aperture in the wheel!!! It's not just about there not being a proper air-tight seal - the issue is that normal sized tyre valves can be pulled straight through the larger aperture....

Derek UK · Dec 12th, 2013, 21:51

Some confusion here. From my North Hants Tyres invoice the number for the large valves is TR145. They call them "Fat Valves".
Perhaps TR415 was a typo on your part Paul?

222s · Dec 12th, 2013, 22:13

NHT list them as TR415 on their website, so must have misprinted it on your invoice. However their price of £3:95 + VAT each is extortionate imho - to put it in perspective, I paid about a tenner (including delivery) for a bag of 25 on ebay the other year.

Andy the Aussie · Dec 12th, 2013, 22:36

Ok I found some fat valves......

Not on eBay as tr145 or tr415 or whatever they are, not at several flash tyre joints I stopped at but at a skanky little place where a grubby old bloke whipped out an old Chinese take away container and hey presto, gave him a fiver and off I went....

Once I got to actually be with my wheels and a valve of each size then i was surprised by the actual difference in size, so Paul I now see your point, my info from wheel joint next to my unit was that it was a very small difference.....

Any way - valves In, tyres on and bingo she's rolling again....
Still a bit of a list in front of me but it's heading the right way.....

So here we go - let the whitewall or not whitewall debate begin

123GT-AMAZON · Dec 13th, 2013, 00:00

hi ya andy

glad you got the tyre valves sorted

now on the whitewalls im sitting on the fence they look smart on and also when you have standard tyres so a

50/50 from me

regards
robert

john h · Dec 13th, 2013, 06:29

Nooooooo!

No whitewalls! The Swedish look is 'functional design'. Whitewalls are just pointless decoration... doesn't fit at all with the Volvo aesthetic, in my opinion.

Also, if those are whitewall inserts, they can be dangerous. I've seen cases where the constant flexing has cut a deep groove into the sidewall (and hence a weak-point for overheating or stress failure of the tyre).

Loving the progress on the car! Excellent work

John

Dec 11th, 2013, 19:38	#131
123GT-AMAZON 1800necwinner Last Online: Jun 19th, 2024 20:47 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Anglia ,Suffolk , uk	o bummer yeah it has happened to me on a set of wheels i think there early wheels that have this issue maybe pre 66 you can buy them still just have to make sure you have some spare for the next time regards robert __________________ I grew up on classic volvos hence my passion for them born and breed into the lifestyle !

Dec 11th, 2013, 20:45	#133
222s Amazoniste Last Online: Sep 19th, 2016 21:52 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Emsworth View Photos By: 222s	IIRC, the correct tyre valve is a TR415 - easily available on ebay. Using the regular ones that you linked to, but with a washer sounds very dangerous! __________________ Paul - 1967 Amazon 222S B20 o/d Estate & 1961 A-H Sprite Mk2 948cc WANTED - For '67 Amazon estate - offside rear quarter, preferably new old stock.

Dec 12th, 2013, 22:13	#137
222s Amazoniste Last Online: Sep 19th, 2016 21:52 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Emsworth View Photos By: 222s	NHT list them as TR415 on their website, so must have misprinted it on your invoice. However their price of £3:95 + VAT each is extortionate imho - to put it in perspective, I paid about a tenner (including delivery) for a bag of 25 on ebay the other year. __________________ Paul - 1967 Amazon 222S B20 o/d Estate & 1961 A-H Sprite Mk2 948cc WANTED - For '67 Amazon estate - offside rear quarter, preferably new old stock.

Dec 12th, 2013, 22:36	#138
Andy the Aussie Senior Member Last Online: Apr 12th, 2020 02:53 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Perth,Australia and Arild,Sweden	Ok I found some fat valves...... Not on eBay as tr145 or tr415 or whatever they are, not at several flash tyre joints I stopped at but at a skanky little place where a grubby old bloke whipped out an old Chinese take away container and hey presto, gave him a fiver and off I went.... Once I got to actually be with my wheels and a valve of each size then i was surprised by the actual difference in size, so Paul I now see your point, my info from wheel joint next to my unit was that it was a very small difference..... Any way - valves In, tyres on and bingo she's rolling again.... Still a bit of a list in front of me but it's heading the right way..... So here we go - let the whitewall or not whitewall debate begin Last edited by Andy the Aussie; Dec 12th, 2013 at 22:40.

Dec 13th, 2013, 00:00	#139
123GT-AMAZON 1800necwinner Last Online: Jun 19th, 2024 20:47 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Anglia ,Suffolk , uk	hi ya andy glad you got the tyre valves sorted now on the whitewalls im sitting on the fence they look smart on and also when you have standard tyres so a 50/50 from me regards robert __________________ I grew up on classic volvos hence my passion for them born and breed into the lifestyle !

Dec 11th, 2013, 19:56	#132
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Jun 22nd, 2024 14:01 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	I also had the same problem when fitting a pair of 4.5" to the front of my estate. Found that they were 4" but the rears were 4.5". I wanted the plain rim rather than the safety bead type. Found that I also had tubes in so didn't need the valves I bought from Northants tyres. There are only 2 sizes and it's pot luck if a tyre place will have the larger ones. Best to try an old school place rather than the chains.

Dec 12th, 2013, 21:51	#136
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Jun 22nd, 2024 14:01 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	Some confusion here. From my North Hants Tyres invoice the number for the large valves is TR145. They call them "Fat Valves". Perhaps TR415 was a typo on your part Paul?

Dec 13th, 2013, 06:29	#140
john h VOC Member Last Online: Jun 23rd, 2024 19:02 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Huddersfield View Photos By: john h	Nooooooo! No whitewalls! The Swedish look is 'functional design'. Whitewalls are just pointless decoration... doesn't fit at all with the Volvo aesthetic, in my opinion. Also, if those are whitewall inserts, they can be dangerous. I've seen cases where the constant flexing has cut a deep groove into the sidewall (and hence a weak-point for overheating or stress failure of the tyre). Loving the progress on the car! Excellent work John __________________ XX

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