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What's the problem with electric cars?

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Old Feb 2nd, 2023, 12:05   #151
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and that is where you are wrong
we do not have the capacity at all never mind the infrastructure
recently a trial was run to get people in certain area to Not use electricity "much" during peak times, due to the "shortages caused by the war in ukraine/russian something or other" supplying gas/oil/who cares
result ,, it Didnt work, we do not have the capacity/infrastructure to cope now.
Not the case.

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The title of this thread asks "What's the problem with electric cars?"

A previous owner of my first Honda Prelude had fitted a large bore exhaust system. At certain low speeds and revs, the sound was able to set off other car alarms. I could choose whether to go for Jaguars or Citroens.

Electric cars can't do this. That is the problem with them.
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Which ICE can do 0-60 in 2.1 seconds?


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Which ICE can do 0-60 in 2.1 seconds?


https://ev-database.org/uk/cheatshee...n-electric-car
Why would anyone in a road car want this kind of accelleration?
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Why would anyone in a road car want this kind of accelleration?
Why would anyone want a car with an exhaust so loud it can set off car alarms?
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Why would anyone in a road car want this kind of accelleration?
What is your cut off point? 5secs, 10, 12?
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The title of this thread asks "What's the problem with electric cars?"

A previous owner of my first Honda Prelude had fitted a large bore exhaust system. At certain low speeds and revs, the sound was able to set off other car alarms. I could choose whether to go for Jaguars or Citroens.

Electric cars can't do this. That is the problem with them.
Well they actually could ... I mean it wouldn't sound like a real ICE, but it could certainly be loud enough to scare Jaguars & Citroens.

On that topic I saw an aftermarket accessory design for fitment to Teslas, it was an exhaust-pipe looking attachment with a speaker inside. One of the sounds it could make was the noise that George Jetson's flying car used to make.
The ability to have THAT is a major motivation towards having an EV!!!

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Which ICE can do 0-60 in 2.1 seconds?
That aspect is very much overshadowed by them ALL being automatic.
That's really my biggest problem with EV's ... I know it's a bit selfish, my better-half only drives an automatic so for her car it doesn't make any difference.
But I'd very much like my car to be fun if possible, and drag-racing just isn't fun (both types - I'm not fond of running-races regardless of whether I'm wearing my wife's clothes).
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Well they actually could ... I mean it wouldn't sound like a real ICE, but it could certainly be loud enough to scare Jaguars & Citroens.
On that topic I saw an aftermarket accessory design for fitment to Teslas, it was an exhaust-pipe looking attachment with a speaker inside. One of the sounds it could make was the noise that George Jetson's flying car used to make.
The ability to have THAT is a major motivation towards having an EV!!!
Aah, but a couple of big speakers under the car would need to be powered from somewhere and that's mileage coming out of the battery. On a serious note, as a pedestrian I have been taken by surprise on a couple of occasions by an EV gliding up virtually silently, I'm sure there was a suggestion in the early days of EVs that they should have some sort of noise generator for pedestrian safety.
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Which ICE can do 0-60 in 2.1 seconds?
It frightens me that driverless cars can do this. Also, the incidence of drivers having heart attacks is increasing, do you really want a half dead guy accelerating into you at that rate?
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It frightens me that driverless cars can do this. Also, the incidence of drivers having heart attacks is increasing, do you really want a half dead guy accelerating into you at that rate?
I'm not sure if they already do this, but a sensible electric autonomous vehicle would be constantly monitoring driver/passenger welfare. A 'health emergency' would trigger a controlled stop and call the emergency services or even drive them directly to the A&E.

Although change can be frightening one of the greatest human characteristics is the ability to adapt to new situations - not everyone shares your fears or follows a 'Luddite' philosophy.
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