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Nov 30th, 2022, 00:10 | #11 |
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[/QUOTE] I'm pretty happy with this to be honest. I've had the same petrol engine in a XC40 T5 in the past and that was truly terrible cruising at those speeds generally averaging around 21mpg. So that seems to show the hybrid drivetrain does make a difference.[/QUOTE]
I can assure you that the T5 2.0 litre turbo engine in your previous XC40 bears almost no resemblance to the 2.0 litre turbo engine in your current T6 recharge except maybe the block as Volvo have done quite some development to improve both efficiency and power. The difference between the previous T8 and the current T8 is vast as far as the power train is concerned never mind T5 and any of the Recharge cars.
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Nov 30th, 2022, 09:25 | #12 |
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Yeah I have to agree. My previous 20MY S90 T5 was not a patch on the current T6, which is essentially the same engine.
I guess Volvo do listen to customers, as they could have left the engine and box combo as was, not refined under load, gearbox hesitant and a bit clunky, but they didn't. If you get a chance to drive a new Recharge model I can guarantee you will not believe the difference.
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Nov 30th, 2022, 10:27 | #13 |
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I see. I thought it was more or less the same engine as the old T5 minus the supercharger, but hadn't looked into it much.
I never got to drive the old PHEV recharge models, so I thought the huge improvements came mainly from the electrification filling in and smoothing out gearshifts and responsiveness etc but I'm glad to hear that the ICE is much improved as well I really do like the drivetrain in this car! |
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Nov 30th, 2022, 10:54 | #14 |
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All the 2.0 engines are essentially the same with varying levels of forced induction.
Originally we had in the UK D4 - Turbo D5 - Supercharged & Turbo and AWD T5 - Turbo T6 - Supercharged & Turbo and AWD T8 - T6 with ERAD Then it got confusing.... No more diesel. I think in the 90 series cars now its T6 Recharge - T5 with ERAD T8 Recharge - T5 with higher tune and ERAD - No Supercharger anymore B5 etc, no idea lol, although the B6 is still Supercharged, but that engine only seems to be available on the CC in the UK. The mind boggles!
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Nov 30th, 2022, 14:01 | #15 | |
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I've been wondering this a bit and been meaning to try it. If I'm doing say a long run with some city driving at each end is it a good idea to use the time on the motorway to charge the battery back up or it that likely to end up being worse over all. I realise its a pretty theoretically question and I should probably just try it but I was wondering if anyone had literally been down that road before me! Thanks ...... |
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Nov 30th, 2022, 15:17 | #18 |
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You can still get the CC with the B4 (D4 mild hybrid) and the XC60 and 90's with B4 or B5 mild hybrids.
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Nov 30th, 2022, 17:05 | #19 | |
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I've done some testing on this but it's a bit more difficult testing since you can't have any real time fuel consumption output on the car and have to reset your trip meters all the time for seeing how much extra load the generator puts on the consumption. But from what I've gathered it is pretty effective charging if it's flat or a slight decline and engine is not working hard. In those cases I would say it can make sense from a economical point but maybe more just that it's nice to be running electric in the cities. However, if you have a full battery when starting, using the smart energy distribution feature is likely the best and let the car use the battery/ICE the most effectively based on traffic, distance and elevation changes.
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Indeed on my 440 mile trip to St Albans I just left it in Hybrid, by the time I got their it still had 3 miles in it, so it knew that I could get off the M1 and to my destination of pure EV power. Someone on one of the American forums said using B uses more fuel. That you can't coast properly. I told him he was talking %^£&£& and that in B mode, when you lift off and get regen the engine stops. I think the Muricans are having trouble understanding what Hybrid means lol
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