Connected car confusion.

[SwissXC90]

Originally Posted by Quacker

I must be missing some fundamental feature advantage here that will be made plain by someone soon and I will feel like a right idiot.

Scenario 1:
You forget your phone in the office / home / gym
However the car can still make data connections and provide WiFi service for your passengers using the car mobile data service (the cars SIM)

Scenario 2:
Dad has an all-included data package on the car SIM
Children have pay as you go on their phones with limited data packages
The children can connect to the cars WiFi and use Dads data package when their own has run out

Scenario 3:
The cars SIM has an international data-only roaming package much cheaper than the one in your own phone
You chose to use the cars SIM and cheaper data when abroad

Fundamentally, the car SIM gives you
1. External antenna and stronger transmitter, running from vehicle battery, resulting in stronger coverage
2. Choices to do what you want

[Quacker]

Originally Posted by SwissXC90

Scenario 1:
You forget your phone in the office / home / gym
However the car can still make data connections and provide WiFi service for your passengers using the car mobile data service (the cars SIM)

So I could send and receive emails and do the internet without a phone? I doubt it. Passengers will probably have their own phones and I could borrow one of theirs at a push.

[quote] Scenario 2:
Dad has an all-included data package on the car SIM
Children have pay as you go on their phones with limited data packages
The children can connect to the cars WiFi and use Dads data package when their own has run out [\quote]

Assuming dad has forgotten his phone that has its own wi-fi hotspot facility.

Scenario 3:
The cars SIM has an international data-only roaming package much cheaper than the one in your own phone
You chose to use the cars SIM and cheaper data when abroad

Not something that is likely to bother most international travellers who will make sure that their phone is internationally enabled so as to benefit wherever they are. Most probably use hotel wi-fi when they can anyhow.

Fundamentally, the car SIM gives you
1. External antenna and stronger transmitter, running from vehicle battery, resulting in stronger coverage
2. Choices to do what you want

Not trying to deny your points but playing devil's advocate in order to rationalise the reasons for putting a sim in the trunk.

[Torkrigare]

I recently moved to EE on a 30Gb per month sim-only deal which offers a shared plan. For me it means I share that 30Gb between my iPad and phone. Once the new car comes, though, I'll pop a sim into that under the same plan and expect the 30Gb to still be sufficient to cover all three 'devices' - Essentially it means the same as pairing up the phone from the perspective of the contract with the advantage, if any, of having a sim in the car itself...

[Soltan]

Originally Posted by alexberry

I recently moved to EE on a 30Gb per month sim-only deal which offers a shared plan. For me it means I share that 30Gb between my iPad and phone. Once the new car comes, though, I'll pop a sim into that under the same plan and expect the 30Gb to still be sufficient to cover all three 'devices' - Essentially it means the same as pairing up the phone from the perspective of the contract with the advantage, if any, of having a sim in the car itself...

This sounds like a really good option.

If I may offer a variant on Option 2, I have on occasion had to leave the children in the car for short periods and take my phone with me, having a sim in the car enables them to carry on playing/youtubing etc. without me having to leave my phone in the car.

[soupytwister]

I love all these first world problems Hehe....whatever is wrong with I-Spy these days hehehe

Originally Posted by Soltan

If I may offer a variant on Option 2, I have on occasion had to leave the children in the car for short periods and take my phone with me, having a sim in the car enables them to carry on playing/youtubing etc. without me having to leave my phone in the car.

[Soltan]

Originally Posted by soupytwister

I love all these first world problems Hehe....whatever is wrong with I-Spy these days hehehe

Always seem to result in arguments in my car....safest option was to give them each a tablet/phone for the trip

[apnicolle]

What no one has really mentioned yet though is why on earth they put the blooming SIM card receptacle in the boot, under the floor in the first place.

Which means that to put in said SIM you have to do the following;
1) Put tiny SIM somewhere safe, yet at hand whilst you,
2) empty all th stuff out of the boot,
3) remove the boot floor load protector,
4) lift up the boot floor,
5) climb into the boot to locate the modem thing,
6) find modem thing. Remove small SIM card holder
7) Drop SIM card holder down tiny gap in boot floor
8) swear a lot
9) find SIM card holder and climb back out of boot
10) Forget the same place where you'd put the actual damn SIM
11) Find SIM. Place in SIM holder
12) Climb back into boot, whacking head on roof a couple of times for good measure
13) Reach out to place SIM in SIM holder into the modem. Forget which way up it goes in.
14) SIM falls out of holder and into another tiny gap in the floor.
15) Swear again. Wonder why some idiot in Sweden put the modem in the boot.
16) Climb out of boot,
17) Go inside to find torch, and a younger person with smaller hands and better eyesight.
18) Make younger person climb into boot, find SIM and insert the right way up into the modem.
19) Ignore all comments from said young person about old gimmers and technology in cars
20) Swear at the young person when they fit the SIM in less than 5 seconds and then bound effortlessly out of the boot
21) Put all stuff back in the boot
22) Lock the car, go inside for a coffee and wonder where the rest of the afternoon has gone.

Or is it just like that for me !

[apnicolle]

That's for a V90 by the way.

[Jcbrown]

Originally Posted by apnicolle

What no one has really mentioned yet though is why on earth they put the blooming SIM card receptacle in the boot, under the floor in the first place.

Which means that to put in said SIM you have to do the following;
1) Put tiny SIM somewhere safe, yet at hand whilst you,
2) empty all th stuff out of the boot,
3) remove the boot floor load protector,
4) lift up the boot floor,
5) climb into the boot to locate the modem thing,
6) find modem thing. Remove small SIM card holder
7) Drop SIM card holder down tiny gap in boot floor
8) swear a lot
9) find SIM card holder and climb back out of boot
10) Forget the same place where you'd put the actual damn SIM
11) Find SIM. Place in SIM holder
12) Climb back into boot, whacking head on roof a couple of times for good measure
13) Reach out to place SIM in SIM holder into the modem. Forget which way up it goes in.
14) SIM falls out of holder and into another tiny gap in the floor.
15) Swear again. Wonder why some idiot in Sweden put the modem in the boot.
16) Climb out of boot,
17) Go inside to find torch, and a younger person with smaller hands and better eyesight.
18) Make younger person climb into boot, find SIM and insert the right way up into the modem.
19) Ignore all comments from said young person about old gimmers and technology in cars
20) Swear at the young person when they fit the SIM in less than 5 seconds and then bound effortlessly out of the boot
21) Put all stuff back in the boot
22) Lock the car, go inside for a coffee and wonder where the rest of the afternoon has gone.

Or is it just like that for me !

Nope, that is me also - at least the first time I tried. Though #20 was muttered under my breath, as I don't want my daughter repeating such language at school

As it would not read the SIM I had to take it out and re-do it. This time I followed 1-4, then dropped rear seat and got at the holder much easer from the rear seats

However, do agree it is a stupid location - why not in the glove box like other models?

[soupytwister]

Where is the VOC sim located? Is it at the front? Is it anything to do with safety such that one sim is at front and one sim is at rear so that SOS is more likely to work in a crash?

Or is the VOC sim in the boot in the same place?