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Old Mar 30th, 2023, 10:17   #11
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I don't thank there is too much joined up thinking between government departments, so I doubt it is even on anyone's radar (wow I really am sounding like an old man), not that I'm particularly trying to promote VOSA clamping down on potential rule breakers of the MOT exemption rules but if you are going to go to the effort of creating some legislation at least attempt to enforce it!
It would be a comforting thought that all of the "heavily modified" cars on the roads were safe and I think this legislation was created to try and help achieve that I just don't think its policed!

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I agree with you Doug. In the 200 section we have often discussed whether it would be possible to modify a motor car in a certain way and still gain the Historic Car tax exemption (it is pertinent there because many 200s are on the cusp of qualifying). It is interesting that someone has got away in fitting a 5,400cc V8 without the DVLA civil servants noticing that was a significant change.

I'm not for a nanny state, but I think the legislation is sensible in this case, and also it is wrong that DVLA can't be bothered to enforce it.

No matter. I'm generally against people modifying old motor cars in a significant way; fitting modern tyres and lights is okay for safety, but the putting 300HP plus motors into 60 year old motor cars is just plain silly (in my humble opinion).

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Old Mar 30th, 2023, 11:36   #12
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Alan, we appear to have hi-jacked this poor chaps thread with a rant about UK government legislation!

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Note that the OP appears to be in Lithuania so so tax and roadworthiness rules have to be considered. In the UK you may get tax free, but for no MOT there mustn't have been any substantial mods in the last 30 years.

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I don't thank there is too much joined up thinking between government departments, so I doubt it is even on anyone's radar (wow I really am sounding like an old man), not that I'm particularly trying to promote VOSA clamping down on potential rule breakers of the MOT exemption rules but if you are going to go to the effort of creating some legislation at least attempt to enforce it!
It would be a comforting thought that all of the "heavily modified" cars on the roads were safe and I think this legislation was created to try and help achieve that I just don't think its policed!

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The issue will come if you try to make an insurance claim or are involved in an accident if police or insurance deem it’s significantly modified then it’s not allowed to be classified as an historic vehicle and as such it requires road tax and Mot not having them leaves you open to non payment of insurance claim and possible prosecution, it’s very hard to get anyone to say what is and is not significant
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Alan, we appear to have hi-jacked this poor chaps thread with a rant about UK government legislation!

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no problem, i don't mind


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Note that the OP appears to be in Lithuania so so tax and roadworthiness rules have to be considered. In the UK you may get tax free, but for no MOT there mustn't have been any substantial mods in the last 30 years.

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I've already done my research on local laws - after the mods, the car must be inspected by local motorsport authorities, and the car will be awarded a certificate as a "special purpose car".

so in daily life it translates that i have a racecar, and i need to somehow reach the racetrack or repair shop - so i must drive it on the road

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Realistically this is a bodyswap, check this group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/332774808873843
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Body swap sounds like a title for a bad horror movie; but, I was thinking the same thing. Cut around the bottom edge, lift the body up, remove the floorpan / drivetrain and slide a new floor pan / drivetrain in place. Some creativity required to address the inevitable attachment and body flex issues. Same approach as used by Dr. Frankenstein which is why these things sometimes get labeled as Frankencars.

I have seen an 1800ES dropped on to a Mazda MX5 floor pan and there is already a trove of info on how to jam various V8s into the MX5 floor pan. On Swedespeed one individual did the chop and drop with an Amazon wagon body shell onto a BMW 3 series platform. Once you get that part done there are probably lots of ways to juice the 3 series engine.

Doing this requires a lot of fabrication skill, workshop space, time and money. People who have executed these cars more or less successfully generally know what they are doing and don't go around asking general questions about what they should do. Whether it is a good idea is a separate question and they generally don't appear too concerned about whether other people think it is a good idea. I don't think Dr. F asked anybody if they thought this was a good idea.

If you need to ask what you should do you probably should put this idea on a shelf until you have the knowledge base and skills in place that would allow to formulate your own plan. Asking other people for a plan is a bad sign - kind of like seeking relationship advice on line.
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142guy;

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If you need to ask what you should do you probably should put this idea on a shelf until you have the knowledge base and skills in place that would allow to formulate your own plan. Asking other people for a plan is a bad sign - kind of like seeking relationship advice on line.
Totally disagree. Why should I start inventing a bicycle all over again, when somebody already did what I'm wanting to do?
Better learn from best practices instead of making your own silly mistakes - it saves some time.
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Famous quote "“Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.”
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