What's the problem with electric cars?

[Rocinante]

Originally Posted by SnineT

.....In summary we just don't know as much as we let on, the planet has and will change at will regardless of us, if we could all come back in 100000 years I'd estimate the planet will be bigger than it is today, I believe she has a self generating core and will continue to grow until like a balloon she pops and becomes space debris.

I have to ask, is this theory you've proposed on how the planet works, something you've just made up, or is there some sort of background to this theory ?

I won't claim to know a lot about how the Earth works, but this is the first time I've heard this.

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Clan

Of course they were , it takes many years to design a car and bring it to production , Even volvo had a hybrid on the market then.

Nobody was really that interested in them 8 years ago, sure the hybrids were around but hybrids don't have the cell pack volume of full electric so don't have the disposal impact of full EV's and self charging is more in keeping with the model people expect of a car experience.

The Prius is now 20 years old but the real shove to EV has come since 2018/19, as I've said to others my issue isn't with the idea or the car it's with the production and disposal parts of it, watch in about 5 years time the forums will be full of "I'm getting a diesel before it's too late" and "I tried an EV but soon went back to a diesel" the more people that switch the more the grumbles will increase when they realise the dream became a nightmare, I watched a vid the other night on hydrogen cars, Toyota lent a reviewer a car for review and when he went to pick it up he had to fuel it, behind 4 other cars it took him 40 minutes to get to the pump and then someone had to explain that different pump pressures only work with a specific car, that the nozzle ice welds to the car especially if it's been in use constantly, none of this will matter when I release my car brand of the future, it will have a magnetic chassis so it floats meaning no tyres and dual corkscrew propellers running front to back, air motion will aid economy once it's moving, I'm still working on the braking method but signs are good in full astern mode but cavitation is still not refined enough to market

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Rocinante

I have to ask, is this theory you've proposed on how the planet works, something you've just made up, or is there some sort of background to this theory ?

I won't claim to know a lot about how the Earth works, but this is the first time I've heard this.

It's theory based on how the planet behaves and what we already know as such.


Volcanos are a big clue and so is plate movement and earthquakes, plate movement would suggest shrinking where earthquakes (sorry if there's anyone reading effected by recent events) suggest expansion.

Now something is generating lava from within, the volcano is the weak point but how much lava is generating inside that never gets out (imagine a spot that won't pop getting larger) so naturally the lava will push the whole outer edges of the planet outwards, as it cools near the surface it will form a bedrock and then the process repeats, the earthquake can be viewed like a perished tyre where the more air you put in the wider the perishing cracks will become until the carcass splits.


If you're really interested I can write some more theory later however I expect this will be sneered at by some because it's outside of the comfort zone.

[Fastpatsilents]

Originally Posted by SnineT

There is more to it than that John.

There has been suggestion that spent wells are re-filling themselves, how much I don't know because I've not dug into it on the level required.

There is also evidence of warm weather fossils being found in Alaska, how they got there is still a mystery but I'd suggest it's relativity to the sun that changes over time, enter the scientists who will say "erf aven't mooved etc" but how can man determine whether it has or not, did Neil Armstrong viewing from the moon in 69 say "aye oop can't see the south pole like we used to be able to 4000 years ago" and where is the data from 4000 years ago anyway? there is none as such other than speculation based on remnants we can actually see on earth which may or may not be accurate anyway.

A foot is 12 inches right up to the point you discover smaller or larger people, just a man made ref point to assist in the means to measure, a yard is a yard right up until it's a Pete Crouch yard.


In summary we just don't know as much as we let on, the planet has and will change at will regardless of us, if we could all come back in 100000 years I'd estimate the planet will be bigger than it is today, I believe she has a self generating core and will continue to grow until like a balloon she pops and becomes space debris.

Warm weather fossils in Alaska is not amazing but just fairly basic geology.

https://dggs.alaska.gov/popular-geol...dinosaurs.html

In much the same way as the rocks your house is standing on was deposited as the calcite shells of microplanton in a tropical sea 150 million years ago.

We know a lot about this planet and all the information is available online.

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Fastpatsilents

Warm weather fossils in Alaska is not amazing but just fairly basic geology.

https://dggs.alaska.gov/popular-geol...dinosaurs.html

In much the same way as the rocks your house is standing on was deposited as the calcite shells of microplanton in a tropical sea 150 million years ago.

We know a lot about this planet and all the information is available online.

We know what they conclude, whether it happened that way or not remains to be seen, I had considered that with enough time something that fossilised in Africa could get tidal travel up to Alaska and that may still be the case, however due to weather patterns changing in my lifetime I think these things are driven by our orbit or the position of the sun changing, the northern hemisphere is getting colder basing that on being able to grow grapes in Roman times in Britain as a time stick as such which suggests to me the north is moving out of the suns reach as such and will then bring a colder area into the more tropical phase somewhere else.


This is why the ice caps are melting, in time and too much time for us to be able to say or nay at they will reform elsewhere but not until the conditions are right for massive amounts of ice to be able to form.

[Fastpatsilents]

Originally Posted by SnineT

It's theory based on how the planet behaves and what we already know as such.


Volcanos are a big clue and so is plate movement and earthquakes, plate movement would suggest shrinking where earthquakes (sorry if there's anyone reading effected by recent events) suggest expansion.

Now something is generating lava from within, the volcano is the weak point but how much lava is generating inside that never gets out (imagine a spot that won't pop getting larger) so naturally the lava will push the whole outer edges of the planet outwards, as it cools near the surface it will form a bedrock and then the process repeats, the earthquake can be viewed like a perished tyre where the more air you put in the wider the perishing cracks will become until the carcass splits.


If you're really interested I can write some more theory later however I expect this will be sneered at by some because it's outside of the comfort zone.

Go and read up on basic plate tectonics and you will understand how the three different plate boundaries ensure the world is not going to get bigger. This video is aimed at school children so is fairly simplistic about very complex movements but will correct most of your misguided thinking.

https://youtu.be/vxmoxDznXe4

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Fastpatsilents

Go and read up on basic plate tectonics and you will understand how the three different plate boundaries ensure the world is not going to get bigger. This video is aimed at school children so is fairly simplistic about very complex movements but will correct most of your misguided thinking.

https://youtu.be/vxmoxDznXe4

Until you've been to the bowels of the earth yourself and had a look for real nothing that you quote is any more real or unreal than anything I hypothesise.


This is why we can't see eye to eye Pat you don't have the depth of vision and because of that you will never understand what I say.

Remember smoking is good for you, the "50's Scientist said so" :-)

[Fastpatsilents]

Originally Posted by SnineT

Until you've been to the bowels of the earth yourself and had a look for real nothing that you quote is any more real or unreal than anything I hypothesise.


This is why we can't see eye to eye Pat you don't have the depth of vision and because of that you will never understand what I say.

Remember smoking is good for you, the "50's Scientist said so" :-)

You are the person who thinks electric cars didn't exist until eight years ago. Nissan, Tesla and other manufacturers disagree, but I suppose they don't have your depth of vision?

Interesting that you mention the tobacco industry, the same techniques are currently being used by the climate change deniers. Read it and try and learn something from it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/

[Fastpatsilents]

Meanwhile progress back in the real world

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/02/te...box=1675747235

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Fastpatsilents

You are the person who thinks electric cars didn't exist until eight years ago. Nissan, Tesla and other manufacturers disagree, but I suppose they don't have your depth of vision?

Interesting that you mention the tobacco industry, the same techniques are currently being used by the climate change deniers. Read it and try and learn something from it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/

You knew what I meant when I said that, at that point nobody wanted an EV and there was little interest in them outside of a Tesla or a Prius.

As I said whatever I say you will bend it for a reaction, you probably sit there all day hoping to get one from me thinking I'm ranting and getting uptight, couldn't be further from the truth, everytime I see you reply I think Shaun, there he is another Shaun back from grazing and shearing lapping up the nosebag of the latest news fed to you by guessers and agendarists *yes I just invented a new term word* anyway I must not hold you up any longer as no doubt you're waiting for a call from Nasa to ask your opinions about Uranus.