Car parking fees for gas guzzlers - Page 3

alsner · Oct 26th, 2006, 10:58

Rant away, have no fear

. Its a fair point for the wealthy its just another payment but for all us normal folk it could mean alot more. The rich can afford most payments levied by the Government and probably claim the tax back too claiming that the vehicle is necessary for their work.

Does anyone think that they're trying to tax us off the roads leaving the roads clear for all the wealthy?

Ali

Rbphot · Oct 26th, 2006, 11:03

I caught part of the BBC program, it is bad that the foreign truck drivers think they can drive 26hours and that the trucks are falling to bits.

The easy thing would be for the UK to do the same as Germany, when a truck or Bus enters, it must stop at the border crossing and get a card which records the mileage and vehicle details, when they leave Germany they hand this back in at the crossing point and they pay a road tax for the number of miles they have driven.

This would be easy for the VOC to enforce as there is only a limited number of ports of entry, and at the same time they can check the drivers tacographs and truck for safety.

I should be in politics, how hard was the to think of..

friedfrog · Oct 26th, 2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by CTCNetwork

Hi,

I suspect that all countries hit on the easiest target.
That is usually the local sheep - I mean populace...!
However, one possible way to reduce this, and to shunt the responsibility off the government would be to force eurostar and ferry companies to ensure that any vehicle that it carries meets with the vehicle conditions of the destination country.
Failure to meet the conditions results in loss of fare.
Police finding/catching a vehicle results in the vehicle being returned to port for immediate return and the carrier being given heafty fine..
Gawd, I'll make a politician yet!!!

Des. . .

Hey, thas a well logical idea, you'd never make a politician based on that kind of thinking.

alsner · Oct 26th, 2006, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by friedfrog

Hey, thas a well logical idea, you'd never make a politician based on that kind of thinking.

Very true, politicians and logical thinking - not something that go hand in hand too often.

ALi

Member of The Sofa Rebellion Alliance or The Sofa Rebellion Party

crusher · Oct 26th, 2006, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Ian Hutchinson

I am resisting the urge to go into an EU rant again!

Go on............you know you want to!!

Velorum · Oct 26th, 2006, 20:24

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Originally Posted by crusher

Go on............you know you want to!!

Er, well alright then,

Undemocratic, inefficient, corrupt, sold to us on false pretences, interfering, nanny state, illogical, divisive, self seeking, wasteful, damaging, expensive.............

Just warming up

(Oh dear, blood pressure rising)

alsner · Oct 26th, 2006, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Hutchinson

Er, well alright then,

Undemocratic, inefficient, corrupt, sold to us on false pretences, interfering, nanny state, illogical, divisive, self seeking, wasteful, damaging, expensive.............

Just warming up

(Oh dear, blood pressure rising)

That's it, there a good start, make a cup of coffee and release the preasure you know it make sense and you'll feel better afterwards.

ALi

Velorum · Oct 26th, 2006, 20:33

And what about metrication? Whats that all about? Some Franco/German world domination scam I'll be bound. Whats wrong with pints, pounds and ounces and feet and inches?

sheerwater · Oct 26th, 2006, 21:08

If I own a Gas guzzler the value will fall. I can now either sell it or keep it.
If I buy another car HMG will rub its hands together as it gets more VAT.
My low value gas guzzler will now be bought at a knock down price and exported almost immediately to some Eastern EEC country where the new owner will drive around in a big comfortable safe car while we in the UK are driving around in something akin to a suped up pram which will fall apart under the first impact.
If you dont believe whats happening look at all the P an R plate big BMWs being driven on UK plates by the Polish who are over here. It doesn't stop pollution it shifts it elsewhere

Velorum · Oct 26th, 2006, 21:12

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Originally Posted by sheerwater

If I own a Gas guzzler the value will fall. I can now either sell it or keep it.
If I buy another car HMG will rub its hands together as it gets more VAT.
My low value gas guzzler will now be bought at a knock down price and exported almost immediately to some Eastern EEC country where the new owner will drive around in a big comfortable safe car while we in the UK are driving around in something akin to a suped up pram which will fall apart under the first impact.
If you dont believe whats happening look at all the P an R plate big BMWs being driven on UK plates by the Polish who are over here. It doesn't stop pollution it shifts it elsewhere

Well said that man!

I shall be keeping mine thank you very much (and taking into account these various 'initiatives' when I exercise my right to vote)

Oct 26th, 2006, 10:58	#21
alsner In Volvo limbo Last Online: Aug 4th, 2013 03:26 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: At home View Photos By: alsner	Rant away, have no fear . Its a fair point for the wealthy its just another payment but for all us normal folk it could mean alot more. The rich can afford most payments levied by the Government and probably claim the tax back too claiming that the vehicle is necessary for their work. Does anyone think that they're trying to tax us off the roads leaving the roads clear for all the wealthy? Ali __________________ Volvo History 1990 745 GLE (10 months) 1989 745 Turbo (16 months) I will return to the fold when the time is right. *It's Just a Ride* Bill Hicks

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sheerwater Master Member Last Online: Feb 24th, 2019 17:59 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northampton	Right you gas guzzlers !!!! If I own a Gas guzzler the value will fall. I can now either sell it or keep it. If I buy another car HMG will rub its hands together as it gets more VAT. My low value gas guzzler will now be bought at a knock down price and exported almost immediately to some Eastern EEC country where the new owner will drive around in a big comfortable safe car while we in the UK are driving around in something akin to a suped up pram which will fall apart under the first impact. If you dont believe whats happening look at all the P an R plate big BMWs being driven on UK plates by the Polish who are over here. It doesn't stop pollution it shifts it elsewhere

Oct 26th, 2006, 11:03	#22
Rbphot Member Last Online: Oct 24th, 2021 16:33 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London	I caught part of the BBC program, it is bad that the foreign truck drivers think they can drive 26hours and that the trucks are falling to bits. The easy thing would be for the UK to do the same as Germany, when a truck or Bus enters, it must stop at the border crossing and get a card which records the mileage and vehicle details, when they leave Germany they hand this back in at the crossing point and they pay a road tax for the number of miles they have driven. This would be easy for the VOC to enforce as there is only a limited number of ports of entry, and at the same time they can check the drivers tacographs and truck for safety. I should be in politics, how hard was the to think of..

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