New d4 economy? - Page 4

andymcp · Jan 8th, 2015, 22:22

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Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

In a like for like car I think they are very similar. Trouble is at the moment all the D4's seem to be in FWD cars only and D5's are in AWD ones. Might be better to look at 2.4D engine cars which have de-rated D5's in them.

The OP was asking about a V60, not XC60.

RoyMacDonald · Jan 9th, 2015, 13:49

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Originally Posted by andymcp

The OP was asking about a V60, not XC60.

He did not specify any model, only comparison between the engines. I commented on the models I have driven.

tickedon · Jan 9th, 2015, 20:24

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Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

He did not specify any model, only comparison between the engines. I commented on the models I have driven.

Ummm...

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Originally Posted by cejsmith

I m thinking of changing my v50 for a v60 and I was wondering if anybody had a new engine d4 and what they thought of it and it's economy?

RoyMacDonald · Jan 9th, 2015, 20:37

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Originally Posted by tickedon

Ummm...

I know he asked about that model in the first post but he only asked about engines in the post I commented on and it wasn't possible for me to comment about that particular car so I commented on cars where I knew what the difference the engine made. The resulting mpg difference in the car he wants should be similar.

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Out of curiosity what differnce in mpg would there be between a d4 and d5???

I still think it's better to compare a new D4 with the old D4 map five cylinder for a more direct comparison.

A V60 with a D5 is an awesome beast though. Especially with a stage 2 RICA map. No idea on mpg though. The new D4 is brilliant but you can't get an upgraded map for it. (yet)

Julianpms · Jan 10th, 2015, 09:15

If you can wait a while, there will probably be a "new generation" D5 engine in the S60 and V60, from the same family of engines as the new D4. My dealer (in France) thought it would come in the second half of 2015 and would have comfortably over 200 bhp.
I decided to get the D4 straightaway (last October) and find it plenty fast enough for this type of car. I wonder in fact if the drivetrain is really up to even more power; I get some torque steer when accelerating hard (e.g. away from a junction), especially in Sport mode (Geartronic). That could be more of a problem with more torque from a new D5 engine.

Gee11 · Jan 10th, 2015, 09:26

Just done my first 1000 miles in an S60 D4, and I'm getting 46.2mpg.... Avg of 29mph so a chunk of shortish runs up A roads and Mway. I was hoping I think for over 50. It's a bit lower than you would expect given the published figures, right?

CDJ · Jan 10th, 2015, 10:51

My new XC60 D4 181FWD Geartronic with 2000 miles on it is giving an average 41.9 and 49 on A road commute if I'm gentle. Clearly little help as a comparison for the car you're looking at, but IMHO still says it all about how good the engine is. In terms of output v efficiency I'm not sure you will find anything materially better on the market right now.

Considered1 · Jan 10th, 2015, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Gee11

Just done my first 1000 miles in an S60 D4, and I'm getting 46.2mpg.... Avg of 29mph so a chunk of shortish runs up A roads and Mway. I was hoping I think for over 50. It's a bit lower than you would expect given the published figures, right?

Should easily expect 10-20% less in winter, plus if you're in traffic then I'd say you're doing well! Take it for a run up the M1 at 65mph with the trip computer screen on and see how long it takes to "recover" from first few miles

Craigy · Jan 10th, 2015, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Considered1

Should easily expect 10-20% less in winter, plus if you're in traffic then I'd say you're doing well! Take it for a run up the M1 at 65mph with the trip computer screen on and see how long it takes to "recover" from first few miles

Hmmmmm I'd rather not try driving on the motorway at 65.

wimorrison · Jan 10th, 2015, 12:37

Certainly not in the M1 - that would get you a ticket on most of it

Jan 10th, 2015, 09:15	#35
Julianpms VOC Member Last Online: Apr 26th, 2020 14:38 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Montfort-l'Amaury	If you can wait a while, there will probably be a "new generation" D5 engine in the S60 and V60, from the same family of engines as the new D4. My dealer (in France) thought it would come in the second half of 2015 and would have comfortably over 200 bhp. I decided to get the D4 straightaway (last October) and find it plenty fast enough for this type of car. I wonder in fact if the drivetrain is really up to even more power; I get some torque steer when accelerating hard (e.g. away from a junction), especially in Sport mode (Geartronic). That could be more of a problem with more torque from a new D5 engine. __________________ 2018 MY V40 T5 R-Design Geartronic

Jan 10th, 2015, 09:26	#36
Gee11 New Member Last Online: Jun 7th, 2015 09:23 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: london	mpg Just done my first 1000 miles in an S60 D4, and I'm getting 46.2mpg.... Avg of 29mph so a chunk of shortish runs up A roads and Mway. I was hoping I think for over 50. It's a bit lower than you would expect given the published figures, right?

Jan 10th, 2015, 10:51	#37
CDJ Member Last Online: May 5th, 2019 10:07 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiltshire	For what it's worth... My new XC60 D4 181FWD Geartronic with 2000 miles on it is giving an average 41.9 and 49 on A road commute if I'm gentle. Clearly little help as a comparison for the car you're looking at, but IMHO still says it all about how good the engine is. In terms of output v efficiency I'm not sure you will find anything materially better on the market right now.

Jan 10th, 2015, 12:37	#40
wimorrison Grumpy Old Sod Last Online: Dec 14th, 2021 15:39 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hampshire, nee Scotland	Certainly not in the M1 - that would get you a ticket on most of it __________________ Currently XC60 Previously XC60, V70, S40, ...

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