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Jan 29th, 2019, 07:08 | #41 |
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Engine always start on petrol. I enter the car, turn the engine on, fasten my belt,turn the radio on and switch to lpg.
You could save these pennies starting directly LPG but it doesn’t worth the hassle. 10 liters of petrol to me last 3k miles. |
Feb 8th, 2019, 21:07 | #42 |
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LPG 940's- no bother for me...
I'm in Wembley.
I've had two 940's on LPG with very little trouble. Approx 100k on first car, one injector wire broke (15 min fix). Approx 40k on second car, Earth prob (30 min fix). Kit was transferred between cars for £800. Kit now 10 years old. I sometimes do the two year-ish filter change (£25), sometimes get an lpg inspection. Paying 55p per litre (Feb 019). Ave 18p per mile. Original install by Gas4cars, Milton Keynes. Happy with them. Went for high end Prinz Kit with nice injectors (£1700). I think the retail on those injectors could be £400 and they are thought to be good for 250km or so- hence some of the higher install cost. I've used BPH garage Slough for any LPG repairs, I hear good reports about ECOtec in west drayton but haven't used them. And, of course, a healthy ignition system, esp the insulating items. Magnacore leads. As others have said, get a good install (a bad installer is the root of future problems), avoid clowns if you can! Personally, I find the stuff coming out of Diesel exhausts really offensive. What would happen if people had their Diesel exhaust pipes pointing out of their bonnets? More crap advise from a 'government'. Also LPG is more frequently used, common even, in a lot of other countries. I'm happy with it, and will budget for it on my next car. |
Feb 11th, 2019, 23:06 | #43 |
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OK, before we all go away with the idea that gassing a car is some pot of gold, it isn't. As I came in, it does take effort.
If you're going to blindly stomp in, or operate some half-baked solution, you may well get away with it, but chance is, you won't. LPG is for those of you, right from the off, willing to put the work in. It's for those that play long-game. It's not suited to a registration-plate queen or those with little will to understand it. You don't trust it to luck. Be minded to do it right, stick it in the car you intend to keep, and don't sell. Choose very carefully. It's taken time to understnad, yet aside form houses, I can't think of many things I've done where I've made more money for less effort. Because I did 'make' money. Simply because saving the stuff is the same as earning it, and easier. Had I not gone this route, I'd have spent amounts akin to numbers many of you will prefer to deny you've trashed going with the more converntional path. The reward comes later.
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Feb 12th, 2019, 08:46 | #44 |
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The safety thing if you stop to think about it is a non-starter. An LPG tank won't rupture as easily as petrol can splash, by quite a margin, but if you’ve got to the point where things go bang, one or the other - or both- you’re set for a bad day.
This leads to the question. match ready, take you pick - Petrol splashing over you or the whiff of gas, which sounds the most fun?
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Feb 12th, 2019, 09:29 | #45 | |
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The other supporters have 20+ year old cars and then there are various posts from people not in the industry accepting that the installs have potential for much trouble and problems. On balance I stand by my comments that for me I would not LPG as I value reliability, luggage space and convenience above the cost savings which are often no where near what people (usually in the industry) tell you. |
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Feb 19th, 2019, 07:53 | #46 |
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That’s a good point. There was a time, recent, Diesel engine were very noisy and clattery. They still are at idle and when accelerating but at the beginning of 2000 up to 2012 going Lpg on big engine was definitly an excellent reason to enjoy comfort and refinement compared to a very expensive new engine diesel.
My 320 6 in line converted LGP was much better than any diesel around (in terms of refinement). Done 160k miles with not many issues. |
Feb 19th, 2019, 08:22 | #47 | |
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No engine management lights etc, lovely car. |
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Mar 4th, 2019, 09:20 | #48 | |
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1) The likes of me, with an old car. Done right, doing real miles at LPG's sweet spot. 2) Someone with a lash-up conversion with every bad experience as a result. 3) Professionals with vested claims. 4) The pretenders that report on rumour. 5) And those you won't hear from. They quietly get on with it. I can sum it up. In all other situations, particualry if you only drive a car 30,000 before getting rid, you're losing money in so many other places anyway, LPG is not for you. If you actaully drive or set to keep a car until you've done 100,000+ miles on LPG, and won't succumb to a new one out of vanity, and you do it properly, LPG works. And the longer you sustain this mantra, the sweeter it gets.
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Mar 12th, 2019, 01:05 | #49 | |
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I seen one guy with 230l of LPG tank in his a4 avant |
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Mar 12th, 2019, 07:21 | #50 |
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The fact they use it doesnt make it reliable.
I think the point is mechanics are cheap and they won’t charge you a fortune like in Uk everytime the system is at fault. This said I have seen many Toyota Prius converted lpg in Italy by taxi drivers. Quite complex hybrid car. It may worth the money lpg conversion. |
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