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D2 running issues - advice wanted

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Old Oct 29th, 2011, 16:58   #61
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I'm happy to see that I'm not the only with with those issues.
I have a VOlvo 26 from june 2011. It only has 5500 Km and it looks like only the first tank went smoothly.

What I experienced is the following:
-> In first gear it is sometimes (30% of cases) not possible to start slowly. It shakes heavily with rpm going up and down like crazy even if the pedal position does not move. (Note that I always manually remove the handbrake. I don't use the automatic unlock)
-> When the engine is cold it is not possible to stay in a one gear higher position when slowing down for a speed bump. As the nearest speed bump is only 100 - 150 meters away from my home I arrive at gear 3 but if I go over it shakes heavily when stepping the pedal again.
-> When driving on a high way @ 90 in sixth (around 1600 rpm) it happens that for no reason the car shakes. It started with 2 shakes when the road went up. I though, could happen. About a month later I had it for almost 10 - 15 km a constant powerloss with shaking when I tried to see if a little faster would make it dissapear. Only by slowing down at a traffic light and driving again at 90 on a different road made it dissapear.
-> Not a turbo lag (as turbo only kicks in @ 1500 / 1600) but shifting results in a drop of speed before picking up again. It just looks like an old automatic gear box.

I'll bring the car in this month. If needed they can bring it back to the construction place as it's just a next to it :-)
Small update.
Last month my DRIVe received a software update (at least that's what they've said).
First impression is that jumping behaviour at low rpm and cold engine is less then before but after +/- 1200 km I had yet again a shake shake behaviour on the highway during a couple of km's. I was lucky that there was a traffic jam so it limited the number of miles with this anoying behaviour. However in this traffic jam the shaking occured also in first, second and a bit in third gear. Luckely it dissapeared as I had to more then 150 km to go on that day :-)

It looks in general better but not like it should be.

During the coming weeks it will go back to the dealership. As long as it shakes they will see me. Most lickely every week until they will be fed up of it :-)


Consumption is in average 49 mpg which is not great but better then my previous car.
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Old Oct 29th, 2011, 18:05   #62
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I feel with you! Mine has been a real PITA lately. It's in for the first service on Wednesday, and if the next SW update doesn't cure it I'm going to move in with them until they make it run smoothly.
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Old Oct 29th, 2011, 19:53   #63
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Hi Guys

I've just bought a 03/11 D2 R design, so far all good. The dealer said when they service it any software upgrades are automatically done by computer. is this correct or do you have to make sure they specifically update software ?

Thanks in advance
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 17:32   #64
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I feel with you! Mine has been a real PITA lately. It's in for the first service on Wednesday, and if the next SW update doesn't cure it I'm going to move in with them until they make it run smoothly.
Faffi,

The new software transformed my D2----at first, but gradually the old problems returned. The dealer loaded the software a second time with the same result, ok at first, then it starts the jerks, over revving etc. It looks like something is seriously wrong with the adaption process in so far as when the software is being changed to suit the current driving conditions, as it should be, the result is a disaster!
Since you seem to have exactly the same problems as I do, it will be interesting to find out how you get on with the latest software.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 21:29   #65
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I'll report back.
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Old Nov 7th, 2011, 09:37   #66
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Hi again. Went back to the dealer who did a software update though they didn't think it needed one on the phone! Went to France a couple of weeks later doing about 1600 miles. It does seem to have helped with mpg rising to 53 from mid 40s. I did actually get almost 60 over a 200 mile spell using local roads. However, for motorway driving at less than the speed limit it's still not good enough, as steady driving in top SHOULD give better fuel consumption. I have noticed that consumption is erratic and feel that has something to do with the dpf. I had a Megane and the dealer could adjust it to give better consumption. Volvo say they can't adjust it.
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Old Nov 7th, 2011, 12:45   #67
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New SW didn't help, so I've complained and offered the solution described by WARBO. Will see what happens.

Consumption will drop markedly when the DPF is burning, which should be every 200 to 600 miles. In my experience, my car initially did the cycle every 800 miles, now I haven't noticed a single burning action for the last 3000 miles at least.
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Old Nov 7th, 2011, 18:18   #68
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New SW didn't help, so I've complained and offered the solution described by WARBO. Will see what happens.

Consumption will drop markedly when the DPF is burning, which should be every 200 to 600 miles. In my experience, my car initially did the cycle every 800 miles, now I haven't noticed a single burning action for the last 3000 miles at least.
Sorry to hear it's no better. Not really surprised though, as mine isn't either!
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Old Nov 8th, 2011, 13:21   #69
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Snuggle there is a volvo tech journal for the symptoms you describe. Involving an engine ecm software upgrade. If the software does not improve matters there are several adaptions to reset in the cars systems. It sounds like your dealer did the adations resets? Did they do the ecm upgrade first though???
Basically the car learns your driving style and adapts to it to make it as efficient as possible when you use it. It seems that some use styles may set up the car in such a way as to make it hesitate as you describe. The adaption resets at the dealer involve a very complex reset/re-learning for the car during a drive out within a given set of temp/engine parameters and have to be followed to the letter!. Time to confirm what has been done at your dealers i think!
I sent that to my dealer and have asked them to investigate to see what they can come up with.
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Old Nov 9th, 2011, 10:36   #70
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It helped! Well, they haven't done anything yet, but thanks to WARBO's description I now have an appointment on the 18th to get the describe routine performed. I cannot tell how much I want this to work! I'll even comply with driving in a certain manner afterwards - even if I think it's absolutely daft that human must comply with car and not the other way around - if that's required to keep the car running as it should.

I'll be back in a couple of weeks when I know more how it pans out.

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Ifølge Hotline er det nylig sluppet en ny motorstyrings software til denne motoren. Denne oppdateringen krever en adapsjonskjøring etter oppdatering.
This roughly translates into: According to Hotline, there is a new SW release out for the engine management for the D2. This update require adaptive driving afterwards.
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