Climate change

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by john.wigley

Not necessarily, 'biggbn'. That would presumably only apply if everyone then drove up to their limiter. Paul made the point earlier that some drivers do so at a speed well below the prevailing limit. I think he cited 42 in a 50 limit as an example. Presumably those people would still drive at their chosen speed without troubling their limiter in the slightest, and in so doing continue to cause the queues to which he referred?

Regards, John.

So no different than now, where we can drive at the limit or below it?

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by green van man

No George, as I explained with the truck overtake. All 3 vehicles were limited to 56mph by tachograph law. I was slightly lighter and so was nearer the 56mph speed, the trucks being loaded were possibly 2 mph slower than me and I kept running up on them and having to back off and thus loose momentum.

Limiters are not equal, loads are not equal, gearing is not equal, all these things have bearing on the road speed that can be maintained on any given road . We there by have racing elephants.

Paul.

So why try? You know the futility?

[PRainbow]

Do you the dinosaurs had these sort of issues before they became extinct?

[green van man]

Originally Posted by biggbn

So why try? You know the futility?

Because I can.

Paul.

[id5]

Originally Posted by biggbn

Fair point. But my point is also fair I think. Set your cruise to 70 mph next long journey and see what your average speed is door to door, not just on motorway. I will bet it's nearer 60 than 70mph. My commute is usually 160/180 miles a day, not popping to the shops, sorry I did not explain that properly, and I regularly travel longer distances. I don't notice any appreciable time saving at 70mph to say 55/60mph, even though our roads are appreciably quieter than down south. I have as I said put @25k miles on my car since February!!

Your point is perfectly valid with the conditions you cite

Same as my examples earlier, they will never be precise. That's averages for you

But I know what you mean, it is the stop start at traffic lights bends, passing that eats into the average and, if you try to keep the ECO meter high slow acceleration saves you fuel. Oh, for a wide open road.

[john.wigley]

Originally Posted by id5

Same as my examples earlier, they will never be precise. That's averages for you

But I know what you mean, it is the stop start at traffic lights bends, passing that eats into the average and, if you try to keep the ECO meter high slow acceleration saves you fuel. Oh, for a wide open road.

Not only does it affect average speed, but it also greatly affects average fuel consumption.

Our 1981 244DL (2.1, 3Sp. Auto) routinely returned 23 MPG in mixed driving over an extended period. On our first visit to Sweden in it, we were pleasantly surprised to find that it returned 30+ MPG (full tank to full tank), mainly because we were driving several hundred miles at a stretch at a constant 90 KPH (56 MPH). The car just seemed to revel in it's natural habitat.

Regards, John.

[The Thong]

Originally Posted by PRainbow

Do you the dinosaurs had these sort of issues before they became extinct?

They had a different issue

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by john.wigley

Not only does it affect average speed, but it also greatly affects average fuel consumption.

Our 1981 244DL (2.1, 3Sp. Auto) routinely returned 23 MPG in mixed driving over an extended period. On our first visit to Sweden in it, we were pleasantly surprised to find that it returned 30+ MPG (full tank to full tank), mainly because we were driving several hundred miles at a stretch at a constant 90 KPH (56 MPH). The car just seemed to revel in it's natural habitat.

Regards, John.

I used to get 36/38mpg from my 940 2.3lpt, over 40mpg from my e39 525i and over 40mpg from my 2.8 v6 turbo Saab, all door to door 160 mile commute. Amazing what you can achieve by carefully driving. Take the eye off the ball and those figures plumetted. I miss all of those cars hugely, Will have an e39 540i sport at some point but they are getting expensive,!!

[ksmi]

Originally Posted by john.wigley

Not only does it affect average speed, but it also greatly affects average fuel consumption.

Our 1981 244DL (2.1, 3Sp. Auto) routinely returned 23 MPG in mixed driving over an extended period. On our first visit to Sweden in it, we were pleasantly surprised to find that it returned 30+ MPG (full tank to full tank), mainly because we were driving several hundred miles at a stretch at a constant 90 KPH (56 MPH). The car just seemed to revel in it's natural habitat.

Regards, John.

It is a known fact John that Moose power is always more economical than Horse , plus down hill with the wind up your chuff helps enormously!

Best Regards,Keith.